Smick
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Hows it goin guys.
Jus off the phone to my insurance company there (N Union), was wanting to know if fitting 40mm lowering springs would effect my premium, and to my surprise they say that its not a problem to make this modification and it will not cost me any extra! Well pleased!
I phoned up a few months back wanting to put on 16" Kosei RG's and they quoted me an extra £2000 on top of my premium. (I live in N Ireland so my insurance is already high) Thats just takin the pi$$ but.
How the feck can they not charge for suspension but charge me £2k for a set of wheels worth £200 odd !??
Does anyone know how they come up with the figures?
oh, and anyone got a set of springs in good nick they fancy sellin me?
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ed
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Hmmm, tried threatening them? They will just take advantage of people to get money out of them, if you say, 'in fact, i'll go with xxx as they only charge £y extra for alloys' They will hopefully 'speak to thier supervisor'... Try playing one off against another... Takes time, but it will save you money.
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Smick
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Yeah, I'll prob try that after I get the springs fitted.
The car just has the standard 14's on it at the moment, so it will look good for a few weeks or so when I get it lowered, till I get bored of it and need to do something else!
Do you think it will make a noticable difference to the handling lowering by 40mm?
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ed
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Yea, less body roll so you can corner faster. It is a definate improvement ofer the standard set up. Wait til you get the low profiles on your alloys though - that will complete the set up till you need more 
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Paul H
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argh but what nu don't tell you is your only allowed 3 mods in total.i got around this in the end
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Smick
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I was toying with the idea of goin to -60mm but I read another post there, cant remeber who it was by. They had lowered their corsa by 60mm on standard shocks, said it wasnt a problem.
But another member said it may not be 100% that the standard shocks could take it. I dont wana be drivin down the motorway and end up in a field or something!
Can you offer any advice on this?
3 mods only, wats that about? never said nethin like that 2 me....
[Edited on 26-10-2004 by Smick]
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ed
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You should use shorter shocks designed for -60mm springs becuase you will put more stress on the standard units as they will be forced to operate within limits that they were not designed to. Even a -40mm drop isn't too good on the parts, but -60mm is pushing it. You should always try and use appropriate shocks and springs if possible 
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Paul H
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never said anything to me either till i tried to add 4 mods and then they tell you 
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GLSi GUY
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pluss with standard shocks the ride is bouncy as fook
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Smick
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I would have thought it would have been less bouncy as the springs were shorter, meaning stiffer suspension? I guess thats not the way it works then  I understand that u can feel the bumps on the road alot more.
So im safe enough with 40mm on standard shocks? Do uz reccon it will b noticably lower? I was intending goin for GMax springs, seem to be the most popular. Has anyone encountered any problems with these springs or can u lot reccomend if any are particularly better than the rest?
Cheers for the replies lads
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Smick
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chewy >> What mods do you have that you have informed NU? How much of a difference has it made in price? Just I would love to get a haf decent set of wheels on but dont want to fork out loads as a result.
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Red_SXi
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Tell them you're adding a Vauxhall styling pack, which comprises of a few things including wheels, suspension, lowering, bodykit etc 
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andy hirst
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i was charged 64quid for a back box, so i complained and got a refund. the charges are bollox.
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Smick
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It is just legalised crime IMO, take money off you for nothing. I cant really see how a backbox is really gonna make that much difference to the performance / safety etc of a car. Fair enuf alloy wheels are more likely to get nicked, but come on, the whole thing is a joke really.
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StuartGee
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quote:
I would have thought it would have been less bouncy as the springs were shorter, meaning stiffer suspension?
Nope, 'fraid not! I had corsa lowered on -40mm springs, standard Sport shocks, and it was a terrible ride!
Problem is this: You're springs and shocks are optimised to work together. If you look at the two parts seperately, and what they do, your shocks bounce and roll the car about, keeping it smooth going over bumps etc. Your springs are there to stop the car from constantly bouncing, hard springs give little bounce, soft springs will let the body roll more and give a comfortable ride.
Uprated shocks are shorter than standard, taking advantage of the shorter spring.
Put differently, you will be putting a shorter harder spring on a longer "bouncier" shock absorber. It's not a good combo, trust me, I have done it using Sport shocks, which are slightly shorter than other Corsas, and it was woeful!
Oh, and you put extra strain on the standard units and will prob have to replace them anyway within 6 months!!
Hope this makes sense! If not, do a search in Help & Modification, there's bound to be plenty out there that explain it better than me!
[Edited on 27-10-2004 by StuartGee]
[Edited on 27-10-2004 by StuartGee]
[Edited on 27-10-2004 by StuartGee]
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