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Filby1
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27th Apr 05 at 12:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
people taliking of 240+ BHP from an Engine that weighs kg less than a Red top.

So what do you need to do to the 1.6 lump in order to reach even 200+BHP?
James R
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27th Apr 05 at 12:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
TB's
High lift duration cams
Solid slifters
uprated valve springs
Forged intruder pistons
steel rods
balanced crank
verniners pulley
steel rollers
good oil
massive oil coller
and a decent gearbox to use the power.

That if you want the engine to last that is.
James R
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27th Apr 05 at 12:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Oh www.sbdev.co.uk if you look at the price list for all the bits.
If you built it up I'd say 5-6k
To have a good place do it 8k
Filby1
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27th Apr 05 at 12:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
the 1.6 or the 2ltr then?
Ant
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27th Apr 05 at 12:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
depends what you want out of the car really, all the tunning that can be done to a 1.6 can be done to a 2.0 what engine do you have at the moment?
Dave A
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27th Apr 05 at 12:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
oooooh i feel another 1.6 vs 2.0 litre battle is coming
Ant
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27th Apr 05 at 12:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
as far as i can see there should be no argument here its all about personal choice!!!
Tom
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27th Apr 05 at 12:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If you're minted and are prepared to shell out ££££ to see similar gains as with half the cost of a c20xe then go for it.
bradfincham
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27th Apr 05 at 12:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Depends what u want, do you just want power or tbs specifically?

if you want tb's then go the 1.6 route buy settle at 170 bhp and u wont need such a huge spec but will need a fair bit of internal work!

If you just want 200 bhp, then 20xe and tune that or if you can really afford it
Power per ££ has to be the LET conversion, but thats turbo!

All depends what you want
PaulW
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27th Apr 05 at 13:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'm sticking with the 1.6i in my GSi...

Its already stripped out too, I aim to get high 15's at the pod during PVS if possible...

I managed 16.4 with full interior last time & a standard-spec GSi with the rear removed pulled a 15.9 so hopefully...
James R
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27th Apr 05 at 17:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I think properly set up nitrous on a controller would be fun to see how far it oculd be taken. Just got to find someone to donate an engine to see
5chaap2k
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27th Apr 05 at 17:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
im also going for a 160/170 bhp 1.6

http://www.xs4all.nl/~schaap2k/ctc/powerbox/inbouw/M4100045.JPG
Filby1
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28th Apr 05 at 07:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
well whats the advantages/dissadvantages?
Joff
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28th Apr 05 at 07:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
16XE is lighter
20XE is cheaper
Filby1
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28th Apr 05 at 07:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
but there is a big diff in power to begin with.
Joff
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28th Apr 05 at 07:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I thought you were tuning? If you already know what power figures are possible with the engines then the standard figures are irrelevant.
Filby1
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28th Apr 05 at 07:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i know i just dont want to buy any engine then wish i would of got the other. see at the mo i only have 1.2 8v so any car would be quicker
Joff
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28th Apr 05 at 07:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
20XE

You'll never wish you got a 16XE
Filby1
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28th Apr 05 at 08:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
and im prob right that you can do all the mods in the above lists to the C20xe too

 
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