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Donnalisa
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15th May 06 at 13:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi... I have just taken ownership of an L Reg Corsa GSI that has had a Matzel Power Box fitted on it... it looks as though it was a DIY job & quite poorly fitted... does anyone know much about these & what is needed for them to run correctly??? I have been told it may need a re-map The car is running very lumpy at the moment!!!
Please advise....

Thx!!!

DL -x-
Dean_W
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The lumpy running won't be anything to do with a re-map. These engines with a mantzel run great without a re-map.

There may be a vacum hose left off, a shoddy gasket causing a leak, or numerous other things.

Is the EM light on?

Donnalisa
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Nope, no EM light hun... it's fine at higher revs but lumpy as hell at the bottom esp when it's cold!!! (Feels like it's missing & running on 3 cylinders)

[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Donnalisa]

[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Donnalisa]
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15th May 06 at 14:02   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

all the vacuum pipes connected on the mantzel? no obvious pipes missin?


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Donnalisa
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quote:
Originally posted by Sly_SRi
all the vacuum pipes connected on the mantzel? no obvious pipes missin?


Not entirely sure how it 'should' all look.... been trying to find pictures on Google.... as I said though, does look like a shoddy DIY job so I guess it's quite likely that pipes are loose/missing!!!
Dean_W
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This is how they go on an X16XE, not too sure on a C16.





Should give you an indication.
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Cheers Dean, that helps a bit... does look like this 1 has been bodged big time... do they come with fitting instructions do u know???
Donnalisa
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BTTT as I need as much info as possible!!!
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why dont you get pictures up of yours!
Sly_SRi
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Some pics here of the vaccuum pipes on a dbilas, dunno if it'll help. shows you what pipes need to be on there though.








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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_WThese engines with a mantzel run great without a re-map.

no they don't

mantzel inlet fitted, before and after the remap (posted this before):


now please say it again
Dean_W
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What i was getting at, was the engine doesn't require a re-map. They run well.

Read the question at the top of the post!
Rob B
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quote:
Originally posted by Sly_SRi
Some pics here of the vaccuum pipes on a dbilas, dunno if it'll help. shows you what pipes need to be on there though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/Sly_SRi/DSCN0092.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/Sly_SRi/DSCN0126.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/Sly_SRi/DSCN0125.jpg


Good engine that one is, someone tried to spray the rocker cover gold though
Donnalisa
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quote:
Originally posted by ainsley_brader
why dont you get pictures up of yours!


That would be a good idea IF I was anywhere near the car to get the pictures at the moment... I need 2 gather as much info as possible before going to fix the car & if I still struggle I will then get pix & put them up here!!!

Cheers for the helpful replies & pix guys!!!
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just a few pics of mine to help, it's a C16XE and a copy styled inlet manifold.
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e-tec, how does that inlet sit in relation to the bulkhead, is it pretty close ?? cos someone told me you have to attack the bulkhead a bit to get it to fit right ??


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the inlet is very tight, i had to knock the bulk head back a bit and re route the brake servo.

it sits fine on the lower inlet.
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa E-Tec
the inlet is very tight, i had to knock the bulk head back a bit and re route the brake servo.

it sits fine on the lower inlet.


Try getting carbs, trumpets and filters in a 20xe bay... big saw needed
LeHam
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I also have a mantzel which was already fitted when i bought my car, this one looks as though it was either bodged or has since had a couple of breather hoses come loose. Doesnt seem to affect how it runs but i would still like to know if anyone knows exactly how it should be fitted.
The pipe running from the airbox to the mantzel is a real shoddy job in particular, seems to have been made up of odd pieces of pipe, does anyone know of a neater alternative?


@ Dean_W have you got any more pics of yours as mine is also on a 16xe? Also mate you asked donnalisa if the EM light came on, well mine does. Ive been told this is due to having the EGR blanked off, sound right?

[Edited on 17-05-2006 by LeHam]
Donnalisa
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quote:
Originally posted by LeHam
I also have a mantzel which was already fitted when i bought my car, this one looks as though it was either bodged or has since had a couple of breather hoses come loose. Doesnt seem to affect how it runs but i would still like to know if anyone knows exactly how it should be fitted.
The pipe running from the airbox to the mantzel is a real shoddy job in particular, seems to have been made up of odd pieces of pipe, does anyone know of a neater alternative?


@ Dean_W have you got any more pics of yours as mine is also on a 16xe? Also mate you asked donnalisa if the EM light came on, well mine does. Ive been told this is due to having the EGR blanked off, sound right?

[Edited on 17-05-2006 by LeHam]


:O Thread theif lol

I've found the fitting instuctions in an old Total Vauxhall mag... if u r stuck I can post them 2 u when mine's sorted!!!!

 
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