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Scotty C

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Registered: 6th Nov 05
Location: Kidderminster Drives: 1.6 16v Sport
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5th Jun 06 at 13:16

started it up saturday, all fine, was a warm say so it was near the 100oC mark for a hour or so whilst drivin around.

When pulling off, it felt flat, so i just thought it was the filter sucking in hot air, but it carried on 2 get worse. I got 2 a junction wich was slighty up hill, went 2 put my foot down and it would take ages 2 rev up 2-3k, once it got to 3k or so, u let the clutch and it would die back down. So i pulled over, EML light came on so i turned it off, smoke coming out of the bonnet. left it for 10-15mins, started it and its now ticking over at 125rpm sounding like a chopper, wont even rev up.

Please help

X16XE btw. ERG valver was replaced 2k ago

3CorsaMeal

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5th Jun 06 at 13:27

head gasket?

Scotty C

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5th Jun 06 at 13:41

Dont say that

Hasent drunk any water. Plus the EML wouldnt come on if it was the headgasket, surely?

Cybermonkey

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5th Jun 06 at 13:48

what colour was the smoke? white would indicate steam/water evaporation, black would suggest something has caught fire or oil...
the smoke thing sounds worrying. get it on tech2 to find out what EML codes are coming up...

Scotty C

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5th Jun 06 at 13:51

quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey
what colour was the smoke? white would indicate steam/water evaporation, black would suggest something has caught fire or oil...
the smoke thing sounds worrying. get it on tech2 to find out what EML codes are coming up...

White smoke, coming out from under the PAS pump. This lad is bringin a tech2 home from vauxhall today. EML light isnt on anymore.

Cant be headgasket, my mates went on his X14, and it still ran, but just drank water, mine doesnt even rev!

corsa.v6

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5th Jun 06 at 21:46

has the engine been thrashed by anychance
doesnt sound like the head gaskets gone if it has be ready for a big bill if its a 1.4 sport 16v?

could not be fireing on all cylinders

when you have the problem post back what wa wrong

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5th Jun 06 at 21:59

You were driving about for an hour with it at 100 degrees and you wonder why it broke

It will be the head gasket and a warped head.

corsa.v6

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5th Jun 06 at 22:00

true could be

luke807

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6th Jun 06 at 13:21

get new air mass sensor MAS sensor

ricky1989

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6th Jun 06 at 14:12

lol why ur fan not kick in? did u not think that was a lil suspicous?

Scotty C

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6th Jun 06 at 14:16

quote:
Originally posted by ed
You were driving about for an hour with it at 100 degrees and you wonder why it broke It will be the head gasket and a warped head.

its obviuosly desgined 2 run just beofre 100oC, because the fan hadent kicked in yet, when it kicked in, it went down, and back up etc.

I had it on a tech2 at vaux yesterday anyway

Scotty C

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6th Jun 06 at 14:18

quote:
Originally posted by ricky1989
lol why ur fan not kick in? did u not think that was a lil suspicous?

it was working, but as soon as it had cooled the engine, it went bk up 100oC again within a couple of minutes, because it was like 27+oC outside, and i was stood in traffic alot of the time.

tom_simes

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6th Jun 06 at 14:23

So what did Tech2 tell you?

Scotty C

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6th Jun 06 at 14:51

camshaft sensor.

But, the bloke said if the timing has jumped out for whateva reson, it will throw up a timing sensor.

ricky1989

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6th Jun 06 at 14:58

dat gunna be much to fix or replace?

Scotty C

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6th Jun 06 at 15:21

quote:
Originally posted by ricky1989
dat gunna be much to fix or replace?

not sure. Same thing happened wiv my other X16XE, and that was the bottom pullie had worn and the timing belt had slipped abit. But the EML light didnt come on, nore did smoke piss outta the bonnet

jayorme

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6th Jun 06 at 19:10

Did you fix the X16XE or just dump it for a replacement engine? Mines doing similar (X14XE) but if you hold the accelerator for a few seconds it gains momentum again. Just about to check the following ECU Codes which I got after the paper clip test.
0110
0230
105

Let me know how ya get on.

Cheers
Jay

Scotty C

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6th Jun 06 at 20:59

quote:
Originally posted by jayorme
Did you fix the X16XE or just dump it for a replacement engine? Mines doing similar (X14XE) but if you hold the accelerator for a few seconds it gains momentum again. Just about to check the following ECU Codes which I got after the paper clip test.
0110
0230
105

Let me know how ya get on.

Cheers
Jay

Na, i fixed it mate, just needed a bottom pullie and cam pullie, and timing back up again. As i say, tech2 is throwing up the cam shaft sensor. Took it out today and cleaned it but its still the same.

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7th Jun 06 at 22:27

quote:
Originally posted by Monster

quote:
Originally posted by ed
You were driving about for an hour with it at 100 degrees and you wonder why it broke It will be the head gasket and a warped head.

its obviuosly desgined 2 run just beofre 100oC, because the fan hadent kicked in yet, when it kicked in, it went down, and back up etc.

I had it on a tech2 at vaux yesterday anyway

The fan kicks in at about 95, the engine isn't designed to run at 100, if it gets to 100 then there is a serious problem!

Scotty C

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7th Jun 06 at 23:20

quote:
Originally posted by ed

quote:
Originally posted by Monster

quote:
Originally posted by ed
You were driving about for an hour with it at 100 degrees and you wonder why it broke It will be the head gasket and a warped head.

its obviuosly desgined 2 run just beofre 100oC, because the fan hadent kicked in yet, when it kicked in, it went down, and back up etc.

I had it on a tech2 at vaux yesterday anyway
The fan kicks in at about 95, the engine isn't designed to run at 100, if it gets to 100 then there is a serious problem!