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nicely put in!!
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SWP waste of a fuckin shirt, i counted 3/4 succesful passes. barry was very good, gerrard was too quiet heskey and owen did well, joe cole was poor again. and rio"naldo"
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Joe Cole is a one trick pony.
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Pennants better than Bentley.


disagree


ah well. I suppose being a WHU fan you know quality
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This doesn't rule out the fact that McClaren is a waste of space though
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Pennants better than Bentley.


disagree


ah well. I suppose being a WHU fan you know quality
nownow cosmo, di canio was the greatest prem player ever and scored the greatest goal of all time
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Originally posted by Cosmo
Pennants better than Bentley.


disagree


ah well. I suppose being a WHU fan you know quality
nownow cosmo, di canio was the greatest prem player ever and scored the greatest goal of all time


I personally thought Lucas Neil was the greatest ever player.
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Originally posted by Russ
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Cosmo
Pennants better than Bentley.


disagree


ah well. I suppose being a WHU fan you know quality
nownow cosmo, di canio was the greatest prem player ever and scored the greatest goal of all time


glad we agree
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Cosmo
Pennants better than Bentley.


disagree


ah well. I suppose being a WHU fan you know quality
nownow cosmo, di canio was the greatest prem player ever and scored the greatest goal of all time


I personally thought Lucas Neil was the greatest ever player.


currently yes
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Pennants better than Bentley.


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ah well. I suppose being a WHU fan you know quality


yes, then you beeing a liverpool fan will know all about buying our quality and playing it for 30mins in 8 games
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yes, then you beeing a liverpool fan will know all about buying our quality and playing it for 30mins in 8 games




Quality for you is a good squad player for us. And BTW its more than 30mins!

Suppose its swings and round abouts, seems we bought your 'crap' (Masch) who got 30mins in 6months and then started him in a Champions League final
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sorry that was a crap way of puting it accross

we do have quality players, then we usally sell them, and now one of our main players see's it better to be a bit part player instead of the first names on the team sheet

masch was allways quality, we just didnt know how to use him, and in a struggling team, it was the worst way from him to be introduced to the prem
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sorry that was a crap way of puting it accross

we do have quality players, then we usally sell them, and now one of our main players see's it better to be a bit part player instead of the first names on the team sheet

masch was allways quality, we just didnt know how to use him, and in a struggling team, it was the worst way from him to be introduced to the prem


Thats what happens when you nearly go down - players would rather go and player for a big club than be handed more money to play for a shite one

He has actually played really well lately, and think he will start gettng some more games as the season goes on. He hasnt been helped with the form of Pennant though, who has been amazing so far this season.
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wasnt that we nearly went down

he came out and said he was happy with west ham, had shaken on a new 5 year deal, then something changed his mind...
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Challenging for the title, playing in the CL, playing for Liverpool generally
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wasnt that we nearly went down

he came out and said he was happy with west ham, had shaken on a new 5 year deal, then something changed his mind...


Maybe the fact that he never seemed to have the backing of the manager and was in a team in decline made him want to sign for a quality club?
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I am psychic, I said I bet rio scores off this corner to my mate last night
Good result imo, hope mclaren keeps barry in the team now he's played really well

JR, I know it's hard for a WHU fan to understand but when you play in europe and still want to win the league aswell you need a strong squad and good players will wait there turn if they know they can be part of a winning team
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Hi Tom.
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On current form I'd go

Robinson

Richards Terry Rio Cole

SWP Gerrard Hargreaves Barry

Owen A N Other
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... swp ...
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owen and heskey without a doubt, rooney is lame for england
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I'd personally fit the forward line to be Rooney and another.

Owen will score easy chances like he did last night, but then again any semi decent player will do. Saying that, Owen is the kind of player he needs off him (i.e. on the last man and with pace) but Owen seems to struggle unless he has someone big upfront to win headers - this could be down to the fact England do play the long ball 99% of the time (starting from Robinson who I think I have seen play a short ball out to his defenders once in his whole career!!).

Until Rooney has someone who can use his talents upfront he wont be as effective up there as he should be. But I dont see any young players coming through (other than possibly Wallcott but he isnt getting a chance) who can do what he needs.
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wasnt that we nearly went down

he came out and said he was happy with west ham, had shaken on a new 5 year deal, then something changed his mind...


Maybe the fact that he never seemed to have the backing of the manager and was in a team in decline made him want to sign for a quality club?


Team in decline, ah yes, the one season decline, we are a much better team now ?

and backing of the manager, genrally a 5 year contract is seen as backing IMO ?
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JR, I know it's hard for a WHU fan to understand but when you play in europe and still want to win the league aswell you need a strong squad and good players will wait there turn if they know they can be part of a winning team



yes but i cant see why a player would go from beeing a star to a bit part player in a massive squad rotation policy

look how its worked the other way round, bellamy was a bit part player, now one of the first choices on the team sheet

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