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Franny Jeffers? 
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Cosmo
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Tbf, Wenger hasnt been wrong many times when hes spunked tat much money (Sylvain WIltord aside lol)
Reyes.
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A few good/bad signings form Wenger
Good
Lehmann
Almunia
Manninger
Henry
Anelka
Overmars
Petit
Vieira
Campbell
Cesc
RVP
Adebayor
Eboue
Toure
Sagna
Clichy
Gallas
Pires
Ljungberg
Silvinho
Gilberto
Edu
Suker (for the money)
Hleb
Flamini
Poor
Stepanovs ( )
Cygan ()
Wiltord (for the money)
Jeffers
Wright
van Bronckhorst (for the money)
Aliadiere (arguably)
Pennant (arguably)
Upson (arguably)
Reyes
[Edited on 10-01-2008 by Robbo]
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Im sure he has bought a load more that never even made it into the lime light they were that bad 
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Robbo
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Maybe some young uns, not first team players
Grimandi could go into either pot... had some great games but also some appalling ones
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You got money back for half of those bad signings plus the money recouped for the youngsters that don't make at Arsenal, i'd say his signing policy is 2nd to none.
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You got money back for half of those bad signings plus the money recouped for the youngsters that don't make at Arsenal, i'd say his signing policy is 2nd to none.
Yup, have to agree. He also seems to make a fortune on decent players who want away...Overmars and Anelka being two!
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Yes deffo!!
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£50+ million for Overmars, Anelka and Petit none of which arguably reached the level they did at Arsenal 
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Only bad moves are Wiltord... paid £13m, left on a free... Jeffers cost £8.5m, left for maybe £2m and Reyes cost £10.5m, left for £8m maybe less
But for every Reyes there is an Overmars... bought for £7m sold for £25m with a career threatening injury on the way, Anelka signed for £0.5m and sold for £23.5m, Vieira signed for £4m sold for £13.6m etc. ect.
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I think his trick has always been making good players play as a team, and thus individually look much better than they are. So that explains why when they move away they rarely reach the same levels they did with Arsenal.
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Reyes cost £10.5m, left for £8m maybe less
He cost something like £17m didnt he?
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Was just about to post that
If you get a team playing passing flowing attractive football your always going to have suitors willing to pay mega bucks for them.
I wish we could find the Eboues, Clichys, Adebayors though they're all worth 2, 3, 4 times what you pay for them within a couple of seasons!
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Nope, £10.5 in the end I believe, the £17m oft quoted was incl appearances and goals etc. which he, obviously never met
And agreed with your prior comment, Petit is a key example... he was so good because of Vieira, without... he was half the player
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I wish we could find the Eboues, Clichys, Adebayors though they're all worth 2, 3, 4 times what you pay for them within a couple of seasons!
Eboue, Flamini, Diaby and CLichy all cost around £2m each
Toure was free, Gallas was (effectively) free, RVP was £3m, Cesc was free, Adebayor was quite exp (up to £7m apparently)
Diarra was only £2m but he wont last long, whinging cunt
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Did you not have to pay compo for Cesc in the end?
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Adebayor was quite exp (up to £7m apparently)
That there is the reason his policy is so good, 7 million becomes an expensive player in your team even though he's 23 and is good for 1 in 3 in the Premiership. The other top clubs spend anywhere between 15 and 30 million looking for that type of player
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
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Originally posted by Hammer
I wish we could find the Eboues, Clichys, Adebayors though they're all worth 2, 3, 4 times what you pay for them within a couple of seasons!
Eboue, Flamini, Diaby and CLichy all cost around £2m each
Toure was free, Gallas was (effectively) free, RVP was £3m, Cesc was free, Adebayor was quite exp (up to £7m apparently)
Diarra was only £2m but he wont last long, whinging cunt
He signed for Newcastle at 3.30pm yesterday for £5m - £3m profit in 6 months, not bad 
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The other top clubs spend anywhere between 15 and 30 million looking for that type of player
I wish we did..we spend similar amounts and buy Crouch/Kuyt
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He signed for Newcastle at 3.30pm yesterday for £5m - £3m profit in 6 months, not bad
Probably what got Fat Sam sacked
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I think Walcotts biggest problem has been injury so he has not been able to get regular first team play recently. A majority of last season he was playing with a shoulder injury which he should have just had the op on in the first place and taken the hit. End of last year he was also out for a large period - then got fit again and just as he was getting into the team got a lung infection which has taken him out again.
I think hes quite good but needs to improve - Very similar to Lennon except hes getting the runs in the teams he needs to progress.
As for all the bad buys that Wenger has got - well you can can get away with it when you look at the books from the last 5 years, not sure many teams can get close in terms of £/performance
As for the not liking English tallent - he has not problem - he just does not give them a preferance over others, if the english kids don't produce they don't get the place which is the way it should be.
Upson was unforuntate to be there when they had a world class defence so not supprising he moved on, Bentley was a prat simiar to pennant was when he was young Richard Wright - lol I think something to do with him becoming a fat lard might have something to do with him not progressing - back to the initial point - don't put the work in you won't get the place.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tarrantino
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Originally posted by Robbo
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Originally posted by Hammer
I wish we could find the Eboues, Clichys, Adebayors though they're all worth 2, 3, 4 times what you pay for them within a couple of seasons!
Eboue, Flamini, Diaby and CLichy all cost around £2m each
Toure was free, Gallas was (effectively) free, RVP was £3m, Cesc was free, Adebayor was quite exp (up to £7m apparently)
Diarra was only £2m but he wont last long, whinging cunt
He signed for Newcastle at 3.30pm yesterday for £5m - £3m profit in 6 months, not bad
No he didn't Otherwise it would be on Arsenal website
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Did you not have to pay compo for Cesc in the end?
Negligible if so I guess, but yeah probably
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Originally posted by Robbo
Adebayor was quite exp (up to £7m apparently)
That there is the reason his policy is so good, 7 million becomes an expensive player in your team even though he's 23 and is good for 1 in 3 in the Premiership. The other top clubs spend anywhere between 15 and 30 million looking for that type of player
AGreed but £7m is a lot for Wenger
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