lil_hobbo
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i thinking about buying one i have the money but waiting till after i sell mine so i can buy i nice one.. what price range should i be looking at? and what should i be looking out for? and where has everone else gone for insurance on them thanks olly
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by lil_hobbo]
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johnhara1
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£1500 - £2000 for a decent one.
1st off, make sure EML works with the ignition. Some people will disable the light to try and hide faults!
Ideally you want to hear the engine run from cold. Id expect tappets to be noisy though as this is common on the XE.
Take it for a good drive and get the revs up, get someone to follow you and watch for blue smoke. You dont put an XE in a corsa to be driven slowly so chances are the engines has been thrashed so it's important to check its been looked after, regular oil changes etc so any paperwork\reciepts for work donw are good to have.
Listen for any knocks from the block, get down near the sump lol you'll prob notice a leaking sump gasket which is the norm on the XE.
Your engine should sit nice and straight too like mine in the picture.
Also check the gears go in ok while in high revs, if they grind\nip then the synchro is prob warn from ramming into gear at the rev limiter. 3rd gear was the culprit on mine.
Check to make sure the head isnt porous, idealy you want it to be coscast but there will be a greasy\oily substance in the header tank and water pipes if it is.
If you havnt driven an XE before, you should expect it to pull aggresively from 4k revs all the way upto 6800rpm.
Apart from that just the usual car checks.
Insurance try Adrian Flux, ask for red department. It was £1330 for me @ 20 with 1yrs NCB on this:
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by johnhara1]
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Jenko_Sport
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I want another one, i miss my shitter xe lol.
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Whittie
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quote:
Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
I want another one, i miss my shitter xe lol.
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willay
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check that the mounts arent fucked, the engine should be rather sturdy and not rock back and forth
check what conversion parts were used, was it his mates jim bodge mounts or proper ones from mtech, LMF, etc
brakes - if these havent be upgraded to 2ltr items then it should reflect in the price
suspension - if these havent been upgraded to a better spec (not just the springs) then it should reflect in the price
exhaust system - a 2.25" bore system will do the trick, if its the standard exhaust from the previous engine then it should reflect it in the price
usual things like b pillars, chasis rails rotting etc which are all MOT fails.
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
check what conversion parts were used, was it his mates jim bodge mounts or proper ones from mtech, LMF, etc
This is something that always puzzles me when people mention these "proper mounts".Surely "proper mounts" would be 1s that are available from Vauxhall when they released the corsa with a C20XE???
Mounts that arent bought from big name companys are just as good if the person who made them knows what they are doing.
Hell my XE corsa has welded shafts and these so called "jim bodge" mounts(front engine mount) and ive never had 1 single problem.Even my P/S bracket is a "jim bodge" mount and its held up to the job.My mate who has done a lot of XE/LET/V6 conversions makes his own mounts and shafts and not a single part has ever failed.
As for the exhaust,a 2" bore on a standard XE will be fine.2.25" would be a bonus.
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by Corsa_Sport21]
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J8YJJ
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My mates just brought one , its a blue one w reg and he gave £2000 for it looks in good condtion got vxr seats in it aswell lol
the engine was fitted by the guys mate and all brakes and suspension have been upgraded
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by JAYCORSAGSI]
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by JAYCORSAGSI]
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Ben-B
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@Corsa sport
The corsa never came with a XE as standard so mounts are all after market
what i think willay means by proper mounts are proper mounts from a respectable tunning company not home made ones from the guys shed
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote:
Originally posted by Br.ANDO
@Corsa sport
The corsa never came with a XE as standard so mounts are all after market
what i think willay means by proper mounts are proper mounts from a respectable tunning company not home made ones from the guys shed
Yeah i know they never came fitted from factory,maybe thot whoever read it could read between the lines and see what i was getting at.
Theres no such thing as proper mounts,thats my point.
Wheather they were made in a workshop or a shed or whatever,if they do the job,then i dont see the problem.
Why pay over the odds for something that can be had cheaper,thats just as good??
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XE luke
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also dont believe what the owner tells you unless he/she has the paperwork to prove as they all end up sayin "ye mate it ad a full rebuild 2k ago it runs mint its got 200 bhp nearly it beats scoobys"
they talk wet and as said try to hear it from cold as you will hear so many clicks,taps and clunks from cold if its a shitter 
good luck finding one cos if ya can get a good un theyre a bloody good laugh !!! lol
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Ben-B
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because, usually, higher priced parts are higher quality id guess?
but this is going off topic so anyway..
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Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Whittie
quote:
Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
I want another one, i miss my shitter xe lol.
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Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by Br.ANDO
because, usually, higher priced parts are higher quality id guess?
but this is going off topic so anyway..
Not really,your still using the standard rubber mount,just its mated up to a few bits of sheet metal thats been welded 2gether to make a frame.
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Eck
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Plus, how much will you actually be spending of your own cash? What I mean is... Will you be selling your car and adding a certain amount to that? Depending on how much you have, why not keep your car and get it converted by Beardy or similar? That way you know who's done it and that it'll be a good'un!
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lil_hobbo
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cuz i need the money for that aswell to buy the a xe lol well and pay off other things on that note does anyone wont to buy a toolbox mint cond ford bp racing team u2u me
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XSIHardy
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beardy can supply, and fit for around 1500
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alan-g-w
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If it's a multi-V alternator belt make sure that it doesn't rub on the inner wing when turning left sharply
And that the PAS pump/bracket is lined up properly, or else the bottom pulley may be torn apart
Both things happened to me on the way up from (Manchester to Glasgow) getting mine. Stopping every half hour to charge the battery? Why not...
Basically be prepared for a good amount of fuck ups - just little things that can be sorted (relatively) easily, but when they're running right you can't stop grinning! Helps to have a little know-how about cars if you're getting one as well.
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by alan-g-w]
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sicharnock
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i actually carnt wait to get mine done.
my finacial situation has set it bk to jan/feb next year now, garrhhh
hope you find a good one mate.
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lil_hobbo
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might have to save up and get a conversion, least i know my car aint bent
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
quote:
Originally posted by willay
check what conversion parts were used, was it his mates jim bodge mounts or proper ones from mtech, LMF, etc
This is something that always puzzles me when people mention these "proper mounts".Surely "proper mounts" would be 1s that are available from Vauxhall when they released the corsa with a C20XE???
Mounts that arent bought from big name companys are just as good if the person who made them knows what they are doing.
Hell my XE corsa has welded shafts and these so called "jim bodge" mounts(front engine mount) and ive never had 1 single problem.Even my P/S bracket is a "jim bodge" mount and its held up to the job.My mate who has done a lot of XE/LET/V6 conversions makes his own mounts and shafts and not a single part has ever failed.
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by Corsa_Sport21]
Thats good for you and your mate, yeah I'm aware that some DIY mounts can be good as the ones you can purchase off companies but some arent, and you need to be wary of this. LM = Lee Mitchell who made my mounts and I believe they were of the highest quality and cheap to boot. 2 out of 3 of the mounts on my C20LET Corsa C are custom too so you dont need to lecture me on mounts. 
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XE luke
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quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w
If it's a multi-V alternator belt make sure that it doesn't rub on the inner wing when turning left sharply
And that the PAS pump/bracket is lined up properly, or else the bottom pulley may be torn apart
thats crazy
mine used to make a slight grind noise when turning left...presumable this was the alternator belt as alan said but at the time i didnt know
also when i took it for top end rebuild it was in the garage for ages... they found loads more problems one being the bottom pulley had had it, the previous owner had tried to fix it in place with screws lol
guessing this was a dodly PAS bracket
seems mine was more of a shitter than i thought lol
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lil_hobbo
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what insurance companies should i try?
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
quote:
Originally posted by willay
check what conversion parts were used, was it his mates jim bodge mounts or proper ones from mtech, LMF, etc
This is something that always puzzles me when people mention these "proper mounts".Surely "proper mounts" would be 1s that are available from Vauxhall when they released the corsa with a C20XE???
Mounts that arent bought from big name companys are just as good if the person who made them knows what they are doing.
Hell my XE corsa has welded shafts and these so called "jim bodge" mounts(front engine mount) and ive never had 1 single problem.Even my P/S bracket is a "jim bodge" mount and its held up to the job.My mate who has done a lot of XE/LET/V6 conversions makes his own mounts and shafts and not a single part has ever failed.
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by Corsa_Sport21]
Thats good for you and your mate, yeah I'm aware that some DIY mounts can be good as the ones you can purchase off companies but some arent, and you need to be wary of this. LM = Lee Mitchell who made my mounts and I believe they were of the highest quality and cheap to boot. 2 out of 3 of the mounts on my C20LET Corsa C are custom too so you dont need to lecture me on mounts.
Im not lecturing you at all bud,im just saying these proper mounts that you and others rave on about,dont exist.
However i have to agree on the quality of some of the mounts ive seen,the engines have sat on the piss.
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