Cosmo
Member
Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
|
No impossible is something it is - at least at this moment in time it is.
How do you suggest making private companies up sticks and move to Nigeria for example? World peace is not their problem (and dont start with ethics, blah blah, they are a business with stakeholders). Where do the skilled workers come from? Where is the safety for their workers?
Things like the above, as well as implementing a single currency and single central control over the WORLD economy is just not as simple as making everyone have a load of ethics.
Do you understand world economics and the mechanisms involved to control the monetry markets? Thats a genuine question as not sure.
|
Daimo B
Member
Registered: 20th Mar 00
User status: Offline
|
Yes I do.
And your missing my point totally. your thinking business business. Im talking ETHICS.
If the pirates stopped pirating, the corrup governments banish corruption etc, anything is possible.
Its only individuals in power that stop the rest of the country making a change to their way of life.
I mean Nigeria is trying really hard to abolish its corrupt nation. Its making the effort.
If people haven't got the simple human principles to make a good change, then your right, it cannot happen.
Thats why its down to people to change, attitudes and morals to change, until then, were sealing our own fate in the future.
|
Cosmo
Member
Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
|
Christ, I honestly didnt realise you were that much of a tree hugger 
What you are suggesting is even more impossible in the economics it would take once that change did happen.
The chances of EVERYONE in the world getting in line to do things ethically (from a pirate in your example to the big boss of the biggest corporation) are zero to none.
Its a nice dream, even I think that and would like to see it happen, but it wont, ever, for as long as man is on this earth.
|
Daimo B
Member
Registered: 20th Mar 00
User status: Offline
|
It could happen, its jsut we're not mentally ready to go forward that far yet.
Im not a tree hugger, I just find it frustrating how we have so much potential for the way of life we have, but its too much effort, too much money, and mentally people arn't there.
As you say, its a nice dream, but in reality, nothing will ever change in our lifetime.
Hence why we're simply discussing it 
|
Cosmo
Member
Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
|
Its not only in our life time it wont happen - it never will. The only way it wil is in some equalibrium style emotion suppressant - but even that would be with some one guy/group in control.
I just think its natural human nature to want the best for yourself/family, its natural to want things you dont have, its natural to aim to be the best and get the best - obvious not ALL people think this way but for the large proportion who do I think its natural.
So whilst the dream is a nice one, its not one that will happen as goes against the natural thinking of humans.
|
Danny P
Member
Registered: 20th Nov 02
Location: Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
Not got time to read the whole thread, but I agree with Cosmo.
Clubs are free to play the players any amount they want. If the Government wanted to pay doctors £100k a week then i'm sure they would. They cant afford it so they dont.
|
Cosmo
Member
Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
|
Only need to read the first page or so, after that Daimo starts posting from outside as he is hugging his favourite tree.
That is a joke Daimo.
|
willay
Moderator
Organiser: South East, National Events
Premium Member
Registered: 10th Nov 02
Location: Roydon, Essex
User status: Offline
|
|
Daimo B
Member
Registered: 20th Mar 00
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Only need to read the first page or so, after that Daimo starts posting from outside as he is hugging his favourite tree.
I find getting personnal and deep in a good bush is much more satisfying 
|
Hammer
Member
Registered: 11th Feb 04
User status: Offline
|
You're comparing a footballer to an author not a footballer to the President 
|
Faye_2003
Member
Registered: 5th May 03
Location: the gutter :(
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by VXR
But they don't DO anything other than naturally being pretty......
Its a shambles and if anything an embarrasement on the human race to take looks and natural prettyness over someone who is happy to risk their life every day to save others......
It IS how the economy works, but is it HOW the economy should work? No.
But the basis of it is that they have something that NOT EVERYONE can do, and are in an industry that is worth billions upon billions and can therefore afford to pay them huge amounts of money - same with Musicians and Actors.
Their is no other way to work it - how else do you want to make the economy to work? It would be nice if we could pay nurses, firemen, whatever millions a year, but where would the money come from?
I'd take a payrise please (nurse)
|
Nath
Member
Registered: 3rd Apr 02
Location: MK
User status: Offline
|
This thread got DAIMO'd
|
Hammer
Member
Registered: 11th Feb 04
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Faye_2003
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by VXR
But they don't DO anything other than naturally being pretty......
Its a shambles and if anything an embarrasement on the human race to take looks and natural prettyness over someone who is happy to risk their life every day to save others......
It IS how the economy works, but is it HOW the economy should work? No.
But the basis of it is that they have something that NOT EVERYONE can do, and are in an industry that is worth billions upon billions and can therefore afford to pay them huge amounts of money - same with Musicians and Actors.
Their is no other way to work it - how else do you want to make the economy to work? It would be nice if we could pay nurses, firemen, whatever millions a year, but where would the money come from?
I'd take a payrise please (nurse)
You lot deserve everything you get and more imo 
|
Faye_2003
Member
Registered: 5th May 03
Location: the gutter :(
User status: Offline
|
Thanks Hammy 
|
Cosmo
Member
Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Shelley
I mean to cause no offence but do you stop to read some of the things you come away with? You could go out tomorrow and be a top notch brain surgeon yes? Like yourself, i could go out and spend every waking minute striving to achieve that, but what about those who are simply born gifted? Do they make hundreds of thousands a week? I understand your point that it's always been the way and i appreciate the value of sportsmen and entertainers. I just don't agree with trying to justify the way things are by generalising!
You dont seem to understand at all how a free market economy works...
Neurosurgery isnt a multi-billion pound industry - so although they dont earn £100k+ a week they do earn a very large amount for what the industry is worth. Now to use your example somewhat - a private plastic surgeon...he is at the top of his medical profession and can earn much much more than a footballer does in a week.
Now, back to football. Its a multi billion point industry, probably one of the largest industries in the UK actually given the popularity of the Premier League. The attraction of our big name stars to sponsorship, TV channels and the general viewing public is huge - infact its probably the number one 'money spinner' the Premier League has going for it. So therefore these big names can demand a large proportion of the revenues.
And that is how a free market economy works. So did I read what I wrote? Yes. Was it based on fact? Yes.
Shelley any reply? 
|
Nath
Member
Registered: 3rd Apr 02
Location: MK
User status: Offline
|
You fucking gloater
|
Cosmo
Member
Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
|
Moi?
I just like people who wrongly pull me up on something I actually know about (which is very little really!) to admit their ownage!
|
Ash_EP3
Member
Registered: 15th May 07
Location: Melksham, Wiltshire
User status: Offline
|
So for someone who earns £100k a week the following deductions are:
Gross per week: £100,000
Net per week: £59,114
Gross per month: £433,333
Net per month: £256,163
Gross per year: £5,200,000
Net per year: £3,073,967
The funny thing is they earn over double an average persons wage in one week
|
Ian
Site Administrator
Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline
|
Footballers' wages are ridiculous.
It's a product of the obsession of those people who pay the money to see the games.
It sickens me to compare obscene figures like that next to people like nurses who are grossly underpaid and underfunded.
|
