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mattk
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26th Aug 09 at 16:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Patroling burgalry hotspots in the early hours of the morning trying door handles to see if they are locked, in a patrol of 3000 houses they found 66 to be unlocked.

If they come accross an unlocked door, they go in making it clear to the occupants that it is the police and that their door is unlocked, they are then offered free security advice by a PCSO the next day

Good or Bad idea? Discuss...
BluKoo
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26th Aug 09 at 16:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why would that be anything but good?
fir3vip3r
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26th Aug 09 at 16:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

that could be embarassing if your pinching one off and they bust in
mattk
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scousers dressing up as police walking round trying door handles
FruitBooTeR
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Good idea but people shouldnt be that lazy / retarded
Hammer
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Horrific idea, whether or not someone locks their door is their business.
Cosmo
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TBH they should just put a big sign outside telling people the door is unlocked and let them get broken into, will teach them not to be so stupid in the future.
_Allan_
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26th Aug 09 at 16:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Good imo, my parents house got robbed a few months ago and just an 32" LCD was taken. The 46" was locked to the table. They never bothered with any cash, hifi or anything else but it's was my parents fault for not locking the front door. We suspect it was either popped open or in through the letterbox and pulled the handle down with easily to buy locksmith/homemade tools.

For all the grief/updset it caused my mum I see it as a good thing. PVC doors are pretty weak if not locked correctly and everyone should look at getting anti-snap and bump cylinders asap. Some you tube vids are scarey.
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Horrific idea, whether or not someone locks their door is their business.


In that case, I hope those who wish to leave them open will not be bothering with the police when they get burgled?
MarkM
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They wouldn't try it in St Helens as it's a shit hole in the middle of no where.
Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Horrific idea, whether or not someone locks their door is their business.


In that case, I hope those who wish to leave them open will not be bothering with the police when they get burgled?


Of course they will but where does the line get drawn? Are they going to start checking car doors? garage doors? office doors?

The police force is stretched as it is and the nanny state is already over bearing to the point we're watched 24/7 by CCTV. I think it's a patronising and time wasting exercise personally.
oceansoul
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26th Aug 09 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

would they not need a warrant to enter?
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Of course they will but where does the line get drawn? Are they going to start checking car doors? garage doors? office doors?

The police force is stretched as it is and the nanny state is already over bearing to the point we're watched 24/7 by CCTV. I think it's a patronising and time wasting exercise personally.


Yeah they are over stretched, thats why this is a good idea. Im betting its a damn site less work trying the doors of these houses than it is even going to just 5 houses that have been broken into the next morning.
mattk
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26th Aug 09 at 16:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

not if its open I dont think and once in the couldnt conduct a search
BluKoo
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Oops, for some reason I assumed it was car door handles they were trying. Not homes.

Hmmm, thats a little bit different I suppose.

Still, it should give the occupant enough of a scare to think about locking the doors next time.

However, i can think of a few reasons you would intentionally leave a door unlocked, so it might be seen as a bit of a waste of time by some.
mattk
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26th Aug 09 at 16:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its also been said that being woke up at home by a police man at the door in the early hours is over kill and such measures should be left to when something more serious has occured

I wouldnt mind it like, I think its a good idea
Colin
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26th Aug 09 at 16:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What if this guy lives in one of the houses -



[Edited on 26-08-2009 by Colin]
_Allan_
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26th Aug 09 at 16:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Then you knock with the Kevlar on
Ben G
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26th Aug 09 at 16:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

not sure if i'd be happy or if i'd be wondering whether they are real police officers or fakes dressed up as them.
MarkSport
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26th Aug 09 at 16:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A house in my street got broken into not long back,they used a garden spade to take the patio door out prising it from the bottom.since then we have had a letter asking us all to consider having stronger doors
K17STY
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26th Aug 09 at 17:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can they legally just enter like that?
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
A house in my street got broken into not long back,they used a garden spade to take the patio door out prising it from the bottom.since then we have had a letter asking us all to consider having stronger doors


that technique was used on one of those cop programs, think it was road wars or cops with cameras.

Graham88
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26th Aug 09 at 17:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I wouldn't be surprised if one gets clobbered around the head sooner or later from a startled house owner

 
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