X16joeXE
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Ive just bought a Dbilas inlet manifold of my mate. Spent all day fitting it along with doing my headgasket.
Right the problem is from 1,000-4,000 revs its flat as fuck, and i mean gutless, after that it goes Fukin nuts. Also 5 gear 100mph it wont pull anymore(not that im going that fast) Im only running standard management and its not got dbilas software. Is this going to improve when the ecu adjusts itself propperly. I can understand it being abit rough soon as its fitted, but not as flat as it is.
Any help and ideas please.
Dirty throttle body- Loads of oil, signs the bottom end is worn
Isnt it horrible seeing your car like this!!
Cams.
Head off for headgasket-Dbilas on in the process
Engine bay !! Just need to get it running right now
Cheers
[Edited on 11-10-2009 by X16joeXE]
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Eck
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Tbh my 1.4 with it's Mantzel was shocking under 4500rpm then went a bit mental.
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X16joeXE
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It Went like Hell on my mates car though im not joking a 1.2 can out accelerate me until 4k and in 5th after 100 theres nothing.
No engine managements on so everythings connected, either thinking the ecu is badly confused or ive got some vaccy pipes mixed up.
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kev
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quote:
Originally posted by X16joeXE
It Went like Hell on my mates car though im not joking a 1.2 can out accelerate me until 4k and in 5th after 100 theres nothing.
No engine managements on so everythings connected, either thinking the ecu is badly confused or ive got some vaccy pipes mixed up.
are you sure all your vacum pipes are on and no splits in pipes..are any blocked pipes check all these??
i have a mantzel on my 1.4 16v and its MINT from about 4krpm goes like stink
You must have done something wrong because am running standard ecu? yours should only have ran lumpy when you first fit it for a while (seconds?!)
make sure everything is tight a simple air leak can make ecotecs run crap IMO! 
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X16joeXE
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cheers mate ile check all the vacuum pipes in the morning, we did do it all in the dark (tring to time up a cambelt in the dark is a twat!! lol
Might of got some rong, it was pretty strait forward though, having said that theres 5 that go into the end of the Dbilas, any of these mixed up could be the culprit.
Realy annoying me, just spent £300 on head and inlet and it goes slower and wont push over a ton
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kev
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to be honest mate i wouldnt be doing them speeds if you have had new cambelt fitted (in the dark) you just want to hope everything is ok and you havnt got a bent valve etc? are hope your timing up correct 
but like i say check:
- dbilas bolts are not leaking air.
- throttle body isnt leaking air.
- any pipes are not leaking air.
- blanking plates are tight? and not leaking. gaskets......
any other obv things that spring to mind?
+ am sure others will help you out, thats more clued up then me 
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X16joeXE
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Cheers dude Oh no, theres no bent valves, the timings spot on, it ticks over and purrs like a dream, just doesnt seem to go until after 4k.
Ile check them all but
new gasket on inlet,
Have to check throttle body and blanking plates.
Just looked on waren g's guide to fitting, not the same box but some of his vaccy pipes go are on different places, and one that i have connected to the inlet he has stuck a little breather on.
If i cant get it running right ile take it to MWperforemance, my local vaux specialists, see what they have to say.
Cheers for the advice though .
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Corsa_Quadz
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Alot of what i was going to suggest has already been covered, im due to fit mine tomorrow so ill report back if i come across any probs 
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X16joeXE
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please do.
Im going to have round two with mine tomoz LOL
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X16joeXE
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Fitted a Fuel pressure regulator because it was running lean with no torque. Running abit better now still really shit though
[Edited on 11-10-2009 by X16joeXE]
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ste_p23
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Should have got a lexmaul
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X16joeXE
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Lol, this was a good offer i couldnt refuse
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lostboy
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I was always told these engines didn't pull well til about 4k + but even then it wouldn't be as shite as you explained. The solution has already been mentioned in here its just finding exactly what's causing the problem.
My bet's on a vacuum pipe.
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harrisp
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Checked all the timing lines up properly?
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X16joeXE
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theres not pulling well and theres alot worse that it was standard. i got out accelerated at the lights by a 1.1saxo today until i got into second.
Timings fine, turned it over manually to make sure valves wer'nt knocking, did it 3 times and checked timing again, all fine.
Ive looked at the vacuum pipes and what i dont understand is that they all go out the inlet and they all blow, so it should be irrelivant whats connected to what.
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barneykarl
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On your last piccy its shows the tb not connected correct and air sensor doing nothing is this how it still is?
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BarnshaW
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yea, whats going on with your AFM? its just hanging in the engine bay
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Adam-D
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if youve had the head off, make sure it isnt a tooth out on the timing.
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mattievRS
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Have you checked the bottom pulley is tight and the aux belt pulley that bolts to the crank has been put on properly and hasnt slipped on the woodruff keyway?
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sri_baby
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i say u just sell it t me lol
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philip2
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my mates gsi was shite with a dblias inlet on, eml was always on too. i had an inlet on mine, but with headwork, pistons etc and tbf that pulled from nothing right up to the limiter(hit it once as you luk a twat doing it) no fancy inlet either and no eml on neither
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kev
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how do all yous have trouble with EML and not inlet not working correct!
my corsa sport with inlet power box pulls like a steam train and made the car 100% better
i have never had a EML on? ever... (touch wood!!) ( + bulb is in before anyone asks!)
+ my old corsa with the mantzel the EML light used to come on but go off with in seconds 
strange 
[Edited on 14-10-2009 by kevcr]
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