Bart
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Ive tried re-painting my window ledges and finding that the "one coat" gloss is coming up in dimples when finished.
The paint seems to flatten itself out, but when near drying, there are small circles all over.
The 'One Coat' stuff doesnt need any primer.
All I've done is, sanded down the original window ledge, wiped the surfaces with wet cloth, dried with dry cloth, then painted.
Ive just tried to give the dam things a second coat, but the same thing is happening.
Anyone have any ideas? Have I bought the worst shit gloss in the world? 
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jungle
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you've wasted your time mate.
does anyone furniture polish the surfaces when dusty? cause if so tat will deffo be causing the reaction.
best off letting it dry and sanding it down again and oil based undercoating it then glossing and that should sort it out completly
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AndyKent
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Probably the last point tbh.
We organise loads of decorating work to our let properties and won't let any contractor use one-coat anything.
The results are usually naff, far better to use a proper primer and top coat rather than an all in one.
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jungle
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quote:
Originally posted by AndyKent
Probably the last point tbh.
We organise loads of decorating work to our let properties and won't let any contractor use one-coat anything.
The results are usually naff, far better to use a proper primer and top coat rather than an all in one.
but then a good decorator wont waste there time using anything one coat wise...
i know i never have and i also know i never will!
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Bart
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Thanks guys.
The only trouble is, the bloody treacle like shit will take days to properly dry before I can contemplate sanding 
Can you point me in the direction of the stuff im looking for?
Im after the whitest white gloss 
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AndyKent
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Well yeah. I mean we always spec the proper stuff for them.
If they've used anything other than what we've told them to its pretty obvious.
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Bart
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can you spec it for me 
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AndyKent
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I'll have a look at a spec at work in the morning if I remember
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jungle
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run into the first proper trade decorators center and ask for white oil based undercoat and and brilliant white gloss..
crown gloss has the best whiteness imo.
dulux are second best as there white goes quiet yellow after a few months.
and glidden are just pish so stay well clear.
and all the other brands i've missed out ain't worth bothering about and stay away from own brands from the likes of focus,b&q ect ect.
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AndyKent
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Shit, totally forgot to look 
We usually only spec Santex paints (which is the trade name for Crown stuff). Seems to give the best results regardless of type (gloss, emulsion, exterior or whatever).
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jungle
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sandtex is only exterior........
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Bart
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Thanks guys... I will give this is a go as soon as I can get out the house! )
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Bart
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Ive used a electric sander to give the ledges a bloody good sand down and the surfaces are no longer shiny/smooth... BUT the old paint is still present (its really thick!).
Is that ok so long as its been sanded down?
So im off to buy an oil based undercoat, apply that, wait to dry then apply regular gloss?
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jungle
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yes should be fine aslong as theres a good key to the surface...
oil based undercoat and normal gloss will be fine mate once the undercoats dry tho give it a light scuff with some sandpaper and dust of and the gloss with be fine
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Andrew
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It's not B&Q stuff is it? I had a massive issue this time last year with it. Took two months, yes 2 months to dry..
Not sure if it had been watered down or something but i will ALWAYS avoid unbranded paint from that point. It's hard work preparing the surface for this to happen 
When we painted my Mum's house, shopped around to get a decent paint. Took a little longer but we did her house in 4 days rather than my one room in 7 days.
[Edited on 09-01-2010 by Andrew]
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x14xe sport
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burn the old paint off, get right back to bare wood, use a decent primer i use an acyrlic primer as its quick dying but good stuff is expensive but you get what you pay, once dried your ready for gloss, decent paint again none of this one coat crap, mix in a very small amount of thinners and stretch the 1st coat out a bit to avoid runs and makes paint easier to apply, then apply 2nd coat same again, job done
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Bart
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Registered: 19th Aug 02
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ive got dulex undercoat pro and liquid gloss pro.
Both recommended together for gloss interior wood.
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