big eck
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I had the 225 version and I never had one bit of bother with it in the year I had it.
The 225 has the red stripe on top of the steering wheel and it also has tear drop shared mirrors compared to the square ones on the 210.
Mine was mapped and the only other mods were a panel filter with airbox mod and forge dump valve (the standard plastic ones fail once mapped), mine made 269bhp/266lbft on Star Performance rollers (Big seat/audi tuners up this way).
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gavin18787
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I like the look of em
Who was it that had the red one on bbs's that was 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque 
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deano87
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Bored of the Puma then? 
Always liked them especially with the added kit on. Don't see many about though.
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basslinecorsa
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my brother-in-law has a leon cupra (not the cupra-R) so I assume that this was the 210 ?
anyway he got 265bhp from simple mods. From memory he had Air Filter , full exhaust system and a stage 2 map. went like stink. The only issue he had was the traction control system not letting him use the cars power when it was turned on
Project Scarlett - http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=661417
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adiohead
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quote:
Originally posted by basslinecorsa
my brother-in-law has a leon cupra (not the cupra-R) so I assume that this was the 210 ?
anyway he got 265bhp from simple mods. From memory he had Air Filter , full exhaust system and a stage 2 map. went like stink. The only issue he had was the traction control system not letting him use the cars power when it was turned on
265 from simple mods would mean it's a Cupra R
the Cupra has 180bhp
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basslinecorsa
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it was the 180 then i know it wasn't an R.
he got it to 225 with just a stage 1 map
Project Scarlett - http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=661417
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adiohead
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That's about right for stage 1 (a little high maybe).
265 from a stage 2 is cupra R territory. :/
usually make about 230....
[Edited on 19-04-2010 by adiohead]
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RS6
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210/225 Differences
Exterior/Interior/Visual Differences:
Most Customer Cupra R's were a '52 plate althought the odd ex-press car / demo maybe an '02 plate. All these cars had square mirrors (off a MkIV Golf) the later 210’s (from early May ’03 on) had teardrop mirrors.
All 210's had black Cupra badges (the painted lettering on the rear "Cupra" badge is black). There was a limited run (total of 60 cars) of Platinum metallic paint in early '03 cars, all had teardrop mirrors.
All 225's have teardrop mirrors, chunkier steering wheel, perforated leather on the gear knob, red cupra badges, extra stone guards on the front wheels and different wheel bearings. Platinum became standard and Artic Grey was added to the paint options. These early 225's were fitted with Tracker.
210’s steering wheel is the same as the Cupra’s, but with red stitching. The 225 has a thicker stering wheel with a red band at the top. The steering wheels are a straight swap and the airbags are the same.
We were never sure if the new wheel bearings were "upgrades" or just from a different supplier.
The “pegs” holding the front carpet mats in place are round on the 210’s and oval on the 225’s.
The parcel shelf on the 210 has retractable strings, the 225 does not.
05 Plate 225's
There were a few changes on the '05 (Sept 2005) cars:
The red was changed from Flash Red to Emocion Red. Emocion red is slightly darker.
Tracker was removed.
Cars included a “motorsport package” - a pair of Seat Sport jackets, baseball caps and a track based tuition day.
210’s have tape decks and 6 disc changers,
225’s have single CD heads and 6 disc changers,
05 reg cars have just a single CD.
Recaros and Sat Nav where the only options, the recaro option on the 210 (£1,200) was front AND rear, on the 225s it was front only and £795.
Very Late (When the FR+ came out) cars came in Metallic Black. The FR+ looks like a Euro Spec LCR - they are 180 petrol and 150 diesel cars, with the full LCR bodykit but with the Euro 17" LCR alloys, and no brembo calipers.
Engine Diffrences:
210 is an AMK Engine code, 225 is BAM.
210bhp/199lbft vs 225ps/208lbft. Both cars remap to practically the same. The 210 is actually 212ps, and the 225(ps) is actually 222bhp.
ECU Code for the 225 has an “A” on the end.
There were always rumours that the 210 had stronger internals (20mm wrist pins and different rods), but it seems that this rumour stemmed from the early Audi S3 APY engine (also 210bhp) having stronger rods. However, Yumann's engine (AMK) build thread, he kindly measured the gudgeon pins for us, and they are 20mm. The later BAM engine are supposed to have 19mm wrist pins.
From ETOS and ETKA the block and piston set for AMK  6A 103 101 J and for the BAM : 06A 103 101 J, conrod for AMK : 027 198 401 B, conrod for BAM : 027 198 401 B. So if they are different, nobody told SEAT Parts.
Both engines have VVT, but this is apparently for emissions rather than a VTEC style torque/power shift. Although most cars definitely pull again at about 4,000 rpm). Originally we thought the VVT actuation was different (one mechanical the other hydraulic) but we now understand them to be the same. Again, it is the APY (early 210 S3 engine, never fitted to the LCR) that has mechanical VVT actuation and possibly where the rumour started. Both AMK and BAM have Electro-hydraulic VVT actuation.
The turbo (K04-23 from Borg-Warner), manifold & exhaust are all the same.
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adiohead
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RS6, I already posted that on page 1
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RS6
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quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
yeah i've seen amd, they seem to have a good reputation on loads of sites so it'd get taken there for some tuning.
won't be just yet anyway. suppose i could take out a loan but then it's not the ideal time right now with the house and everything.
i like the 210 version, as long as it's only small cosmetic differences bar the 15bhp extra, i could always get the other bits from seat i suppose.
I originally wanted a 210 version... no idea why.
The 225 has a much nicer steering wheel, nicer wing mirrors, plus a newer engine 
and the 225s remap to slightly higher than the 210s
Try and get recaros up front, they look exactly the same as the normal seats but the lumbar support is worth it, imo.
I don't have them and I get back ache. Wish I'd got one with them.
[Edited on 19-04-2010 by adiohead]
agreed the 225 has nicer wing mirrors, and nice steering wheel, thats about it though
the steering wheel is £350 new, and the tear drop wing mirrors are about that each
the recaros are very nice but not essential, the standard seats grip you very well
210 is supposedly has stronger internals and will remap to more than the 225 version
the difference in price between a 225 and 210 is shocking if you go & buy a low mileage 210 mine cost me £6.5k for one with 47k on the clock the same car but a 225 with 48k was like 8k
they both remap to the same at the end of the day same engine
[Edited on 19-04-2010 by RS6]
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RS6
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quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
RS6, I already posted that on page 1
oops yeah just spotted it
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thegsi
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Cool thread.
Once I have a buyer for my Corsa, this is what I'm having next
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RS6
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thats the 225 interior notice the wheel and extra sat nav
thats a 210 interior
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adiohead
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quote:
Originally posted by RS6
agreed the 225 has nicer wing mirrors, and nice steering wheel, thats about it though
the steering wheel is £350 new, and the tear drop wing mirrors are about that each
the recaros are very nice but not essential, the standard seats grip you very well
210 is supposedly has stronger internals and will remap to more than the 225 version
the difference in price between a 225 and 210 is shocking if you go & buy a low mileage 210 mine cost me £6.5k for one with 47k on the clock the same car but a 225 with 48k was like 8k
they both remap to the same at the end of the day same engine
contradiction?
yeah, they remap to the same. I was mistaken.
I would say the Recaros are essential. I hate my standard seats and ache after long drives.
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RS6
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210
golf mk4 wing mirrors
225
tear drop wing mirrors
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RS6
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quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
quote:
Originally posted by RS6
agreed the 225 has nicer wing mirrors, and nice steering wheel, thats about it though
the steering wheel is £350 new, and the tear drop wing mirrors are about that each
the recaros are very nice but not essential, the standard seats grip you very well
210 is supposedly has stronger internals and will remap to more than the 225 version
the difference in price between a 225 and 210 is shocking if you go & buy a low mileage 210 mine cost me £6.5k for one with 47k on the clock the same car but a 225 with 48k was like 8k
they both remap to the same at the end of the day same engine
contradiction?
yeah, they remap to the same. I was mistaken.
I would say the Recaros are essential. I hate my standard seats and ache after long drives.
i think somebody on seat cupra forum stripped a 210 and compared the engine with 225 they had and found very minor difference between the 2 engines, i think overall they map to about the same
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RS6
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word of warning though they do go through fuel like nothing else!!
im after the wheel and wing mirrors for mine and its turning out to be a real mission and very expensive but thats it thankgod difference wise, loads about now for sale, i think cambelt needs doing at 60k but worth changing when you buy quite expensive
[Edited on 19-04-2010 by RS6]
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Fro
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Yeah change the cambelt if it's never been done as quite a few of the 1.8t's came with water pumps that had plastic impellors which could fail and cause cambelt issues.
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