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jon-valver
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28th May 10 at 10:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
to get r1 carbs ont x16xe or twin webbers. and can sum1 explain the difference and pros n cons please.
Nic Barnes
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28th May 10 at 10:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
why carbs? Why not bike throttle bodies?
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28th May 10 at 10:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Im looking to do the same mate, but again dont know the pros n cons of each. will be keepin an eye on this thread lol!
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28th May 10 at 10:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
not a great deal different between those two really just a huge price difference
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what is the costs of doing these? rough performance increase? and how easy are they to fit??

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28th May 10 at 10:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
you can pike up a set of bike carbs for around £100, twin webbers for atleast £400+, then you need a manifold made so looking another £200+, uprated fuel pump, management, all adds up in the end
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28th May 10 at 10:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Problem on a X16 is the ign, you need to run management, otherwise no spark ofc!
You cannot run any dizzy type setup, unless you do it off the cambelt, which imo is stupid.

As for carbs vs carbs, both will need custom manifold, lots of work.
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i see, to be honest, be cheaper just going for 20xe wouldnt it? how much would you realisticlly look to pay for a redtop conversion? see i have the engine, clutch gearbox, wiring loom, mounts. is there anything else i need? cant i use gsi driveshaft etc??
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would no doubt be cheaper to just put in an xe, you can use GSi shafts but need cav big block inner cv's and thats prety much it if you havethe conversion mounts already
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hm sweet, see i was talking to someone n he was saying its gonna cost atleast another 800 ontop of all the bits i have?! maybe he was including bits to mod the lump, fuck knows.
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28th May 10 at 11:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
lol unless he was charging you 750 for fitting
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28th May 10 at 11:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
well ive seen some r1 carbs for my x16xe. with the custom manifold. so afta that what do i need to get and how much will it cost?
Nic Barnes
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the dizzy isnt ran by cam belt whoever said that. Its ran from a pulley that is usually driven off a modified cam pulley. Dont see how thats stupid. A dizzy is ran by the cam to fire any way.
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I know i said cambelt, cambelt pully then, i knew what i ment.

Its stupid as it is hard to set it up correctly so you get the correct timing, and there is feck all space to do it in a corsa.
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28th May 10 at 12:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
need management, uprated fuel pump. looking say £700 if not more for decent management so works out to quite a bit
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what gains are expected though? I know on Tutorials & FAQ section has a thread, they say 60bhp to the 16xe with weber 45's??

[Edited on 28-05-2010 by Drift_Erm]
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You might see about 150-170bhp, it depends.
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hmmm, would prob sit with a c20xe then? probably worth the money, just do the engines tend to get battered quite quickly being reasonably old, and small?
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so if i had r1 carbs on my x16xe (and full exhaust system) it wud put out bout 170bhp?
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30th May 10 at 08:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
LOL no
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eh well wat would you get from x16xe wiv r1 carbs on it?
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dunno 130 maybe 140
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Get a valver dropped in,cant make good power from 1.6s unless you have big ££££ to throw at it
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30th May 10 at 14:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
There is a lot of shit advice in here.
Carbs, I got twin 40's for £200
You can get off the shelf inlet manifolds for carbs.
You don't need management for £700 if you are doing ignition only.
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30th May 10 at 14:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
There is a lot of shit advice in here.

 
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