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johnny86
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5th Nov 10 at 20:17   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I currently own a corsa Gsi with a x16xe. The shell is rotten so i am buying a 1 litre corsa to put the running gear in. But do i do this or buy a redtop engine and fit that? Bareing in mind i have every thing to fit the Gsi lump and have to buy everything for the redtop.... Wouldn't it be cheaper to fit the Gsi and tune it???

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5th Nov 10 at 20:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

1.2 with uprated spark plugs
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5th Nov 10 at 20:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm still laughing at that.... If that was my dad i'd disown him
Scotty C
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5th Nov 10 at 20:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Power per ££ I reckon the XE would be cheaper...
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5th Nov 10 at 20:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I thought that but then added this up

fitting kit 300
engine 500 - 600
service 100 - 150

so a grand give or take but a grand on a x16xe could be quite fast.
Scotty C
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5th Nov 10 at 20:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£600 for a XE?

Think how much it would cost to get a X16 to 150bhp...
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5th Nov 10 at 20:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd go for the 1.6 nice and light up front, with a few tweaks you won't be far off 20xe power, but won't have the added weight
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quote:
Originally posted by Scotty C
£600 for a XE?

Think how much it would cost to get a X16 to 150bhp...



Plus extra for isurance, and few 20XE's are 150bhp tbh.
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Scotty C
£600 for a XE?

Think how much it would cost to get a X16 to 150bhp...



Plus extra for isurance, and few 20XE's are 150bhp tbh.


I meant how much it would cost to get an X16XE up to 150bhp...
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5th Nov 10 at 20:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Had both and id go for the 16xe every time
corsadonk
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quote:
Originally posted by johnny86
I thought that but then added this up

fitting kit 300
engine 500 - 600
service 100 - 150

so a grand give or take but a grand on a x16xe could be quite fast.


Last time I bought a gasket set from Autovaux it was about £500 with belts and stuff. Also you know your engine. Bigger brakes, higher poundage springs.
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Originally posted by Scotty C
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Originally posted by corsadonk
quote:
Originally posted by Scotty C
£600 for a XE?

Think how much it would cost to get a X16 to 150bhp...



Plus extra for isurance, and few 20XE's are 150bhp tbh.


I meant how much it would cost to get an X16XE up to 150bhp...


I know, but 140bhp out of 1.6 and it would go like red top
Scotty C
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5th Nov 10 at 20:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What about torque
corsadonk
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quote:
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What about torque



Who needs torque, when your reving the tits off it
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5th Nov 10 at 21:07   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Think i will stick with the 1.6 and i am stripping the car out cage and plastic windows fibreglass boot and bonnet... I wanna do a few track days next year Oh and would love to spank a Vts with a 1.6 lol
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I've had a 1.6 with powerbox, a 1.6 with sbd throttle bodies (nova) and two c20xe converted corsa's.

The 2.0 wins everytime for me. sell the 1.6 to recoup some of the conversion costs and you can pick up a c20xe for £350-£400.
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5th Nov 10 at 22:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

persnally the 20 xe better all rounder although like you said theres buying engine,poss 'box, loom, strenghtening kit,service kits
Makes more sence keeping 16 n tune with cams, 4branch, itb's possibily management thats jus me tbh
Crana
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5th Nov 10 at 22:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

redtop ftw
Archie
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5th Nov 10 at 23:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

20xe for me.
Had 2 16xe's and both were pretty shit imo.

I bought a complete donor car when building my XE and made my cash back breaking the rest of it.


 
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