Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by Steve
clearly it has happened to people as i have seen images of knackered nikasil lined bores
you could also say the same goes for making sure your oil is topped up frequently as low oil in these engines is pretty much fatal as well
Maybe it was fuel related and not oil.
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lee303
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the fuel issue with nikassil was a while back, and also mainly in countries with shit petrol with lots of sulphur in it, less of an issue in the uk, but cheap supermarket petrol can certainly contribute to liner failure
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Adam_B
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i would think most people use the right oil tbh, any motorfactor worth their salt will ask you what car you want the oil for and then sell you the right stuff
worryingly we sell it off the shelf on the shop floor, nothing stopping idiots buying 5L of mineral 20w50 for their brand new Audi diesel because its the cheapest 
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lee303
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HTHS is only applicable in extreme conditions isn't it? Like engines way outside the manufacturers spec, heavily modified or running under load for a long time etc.
nope, they spec it for modern engines as they run super tight tolerances, all to eventually do with emissions, as i say oil with too much viscosity can make the pistons gall against the nikasil
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lee303
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Originally posted by lee303
i would think most people use the right oil tbh, any motorfactor worth their salt will ask you what car you want the oil for and then sell you the right stuff
worryingly we sell it off the shelf on the shop floor, nothing stopping idiots buying 5L of mineral 20w50 for their brand new Audi diesel because its the cheapest
lol, well you cant account for the human condition when designing these things!
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Corsa_Sport21
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the fuel issue with nikassil was a while back, and also mainly in countries with shit petrol with lots of sulphur in it, less of an issue in the uk, but cheap supermarket petrol can certainly contribute to liner failure
It happened to many an E36 BMW 325i/328i back in 1995-1998 in the UK.They recalled them back to be fixed.I suppose that was a year or 2 before the Puma was released,but still a big risk for Ford to take.
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lee303
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maybe bmw just went a bit too cheap on the liners? i think lessons were learnt pretty fast when it comes to nikasil
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Steve
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yeah some of the early puma engines were manufactured in the far east, they were supposedly reported to be more due to failure because of cheaper manufacturing priocesses, was moved to europe which made them better
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lee303
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anyway, just use the oil specced for your engine by the manufacturer, you really cant go wrong that way
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Ste
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Why would they need to be lined??Couldn't they just have been bored out and left at that??
No, they are aluminium blocks so they need to be lined. If it was bare aluminium it would wear out very fast. The nikasil is a coating on the bores to reduce friction and help dissipate heat. Once it is worn off the engine is pretty much fucked.
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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sand-eel
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Originally posted by lee303
the fuel issue with nikassil was a while back, and also mainly in countries with shit petrol with lots of sulphur in it, less of an issue in the uk, but cheap supermarket petrol can certainly contribute to liner failure
It happened to many an E36 BMW 325i/328i back in 1995-1998 in the UK.They recalled them back to be fixed.I suppose that was a year or 2 before the Puma was released,but still a big risk for Ford to take.
Just the 323i and the 328i, the 325i had a cast iron block...ken?
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Corsa_Sport21
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Ah right,couldn't mind which 1 it was.
Makes sense now,seeing as they stopped the 325i in 1995/6.
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pow
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FFS just put halfords 5w30 Part Synthetic for Fords in it 
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