LeeM
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Originally posted by RKS
Then there is the issue of selling a car.
Say your current car has 8 Months tax left, you go out and buy a new car, swap your insurance to the new car and leave the old one on the driveway whilst waiting for it to sell.
and once youve bought your new car and switched the insurance you'll have to wait for a new insurance certificate to go and tax it because the guy you bought it off will have probably sorned it when he bought his new car and switched the insurance.... it will be a massive ballache when buying and selling privately.
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Jambo
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Which will affect the second hand car market
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3CorsaMeal
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my car is taxed, insuranced and not used, i should of claimed tax back as its been over 6months since i got the escort.
tax runs out next month and will be getting sorn then.
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3CorsaMeal
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i'll save quite a bit actually, as no point me insuring it, if its sorn.
whats the deal with unsorning a car, why is it ball ache?
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3CorsaMeal
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i don't get why people would want to pay tax and then not insure a car.
unless you plan to drive illegally, you are just wasting money on tax
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LeeM
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i don't get why people would want to pay tax and then not insure a car.
unless you plan to drive illegally, you are just wasting money on tax
my cars up for sale, ive lost my licence and dont need the car insured. its easier to sell with tax on it.
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ed
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With regards to track cars e.t.c. that are permanently off the road - why not fill in the section saying that the cars scrapped or exported to take it off the register, if you've no intention of using the car on the road again.
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dan-sport
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what about people with trade insurance? non of there cars have insurance on them the person does?
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sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by sand-eel
I don't see the problem at all, sorning takes minutes online and it gets rid of the fuckers driving about with no insurance!
[Edited on 23-05-2011 by sand-eel]
how? if theyre driving without insurance they'll just drive without tax as well. all this will do is make things more difficult for genuine motorists and enthusiasts
They might still drive for a bit, but after a while I think they will get pissed off with the constant fines and police attention don't you think?
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Gary
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Originally posted by dan-sport
what about people with trade insurance? non of there cars have insurance on them the person does?
I wondered this.
A friend of mine has half a dozen cars at any one time just sat on his drive but his insurance policy states that he is insured on any car thats either his or left in his care.
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AlunJ
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I think for this to work the tax system needs a serious shake up/modernisation
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dan-sport
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my mate does aswell all taxed so he can just jump in any one he fancy's, they haven't thought this through at all
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ed
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Isn't there a section on the V5 that you fill in when you sell the car to a trader in order to prevent the trader from coming up as a previous owner. Cars logged in that way would surely be exempt?
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A2H GO
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
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Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by sand-eel
I don't see the problem at all, sorning takes minutes online and it gets rid of the fuckers driving about with no insurance!
[Edited on 23-05-2011 by sand-eel]
how? if theyre driving without insurance they'll just drive without tax as well. all this will do is make things more difficult for genuine motorists and enthusiasts
They might still drive for a bit, but after a while I think they will get pissed off with the constant fines and police attention don't you think?
If they drive with no insurance, they could just sorn the car and drive with no insurance or tax and get no fines through. It will make no difference.
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JM_16v
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Originally posted by Ben G
plan ahead i suppose and hope the weather held out.
not sure whether you can just un-sorn a car in a simple way.
Real classics cars are tax free
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NovalutionGSi
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Originally posted by fir3vip3r
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Originally posted by Ian
You can un-SORN just by taxing it.
SORN and tax should both be able to be done online.
It's not a massive hassle but it's also not a great use of time for someone who is legal and honest. It's also very easy to overlook and be fined, despite just liking cars.
Yep, its easy to re tax a car. But then you've got the piss take that is tax only counts from the 1st of the month....
This is where they need to change the Tax system, instead of it being 6 or 12 months is should be daily. then you could Tax it for say PVS weekend, insure it for 3 days then tuck the car back into the Garage afterwards.
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Gary
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Would be betyter to tax you on milage.
Fairest way really. The more you use the roads, the more you pay. Simple. Would be hard to enforce though
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pow
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This doesn't count if it's registered in a traders name
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NovalutionGSi
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Originally posted by pow
This doesn't count if it's registered in a traders name
Something that some have already found out!
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Col004
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I think its a great idea.. Its not hard to sorn if its laid up as a project.. and if its a weekend toy it should be taxed and insured anyway.. It will on the other hand stop little knobs buying a car with tax and driving it uninsured.
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Toby
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Originally posted by Col004
I think its a great idea.. Its not hard to sorn if its laid up as a project.. and if its a weekend toy it should be taxed and insured anyway.. It will on the other hand stop little knobs buying a car with tax and driving it uninsured.
What a bout a weekend toy that you plan to use a company for short term insurance or day insure etc.
Also how often will they review it, I'm guessing at every reminder period then it will get checked so providing you car is insured 6 or so weeks before the end of the tax period you should be able to dodge it
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3CorsaMeal
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yes, i wonder how it will affect the companies that offer short term car insurance, from a week to 21days.
surely there will be no market for them
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