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ashleh
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26th Aug 11 at 15:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looking to get rid of my old TV and purchase a monitor I can game on with my PC and xbox360.

Been looking at: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/23-asus-ml239h-ips-led-(backlit)-1920x1080-5ms-250cd-m-500000001-black-hdmi-d-sub

Any recommendations on this? Pros and cons etc. Price not much of an issue, under £200 if possible, around 23inch would be fine.
Tiger
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27th Aug 11 at 10:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why is it that a 24" Monitor with DVI gives better quality picture than a 40" LCD TV gives with the same PC using HDMI?
John
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27th Aug 11 at 10:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

TV's are designed to sit watching far away at higher brightness, a monitor it for sitting 2 feet away.

Most people's 40" TV's only cost what a decent 24" monitor does.
Tiger
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27th Aug 11 at 10:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've got a 40" Samsung LCD TV that I use with my PS3 and the quality is spot on.

I've got my PC (I've had to use a DVI - HDMI converter as it has dual DVi out on it rather than HDMI) and the quality on the same 40" TV is probably about 60% as good as the PS3.

I'm getting a Benq 24" 1080p monitor that i'm hoping is going to improve quality matters as i'll just be using DVI.

[Edited on 27-08-2011 by Tiger]
John
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27th Aug 11 at 10:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

The quality is displays with the ps3 will be exactly the same as the PC, hdmi-dvi is just a cable, no converting going on, HDMI is dvi + audio and a couple of others.
Tiger
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27th Aug 11 at 11:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I wish I understood myself, in a nutshell, the quality of my PS3 on my LCD TV is awesome with HDMI-HDMI cable, the quality of my PC on the same TV with a DVI-HDMI isnt as good.

I'm using a GTS-240 1GB GPU with dual DVi out.
John
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27th Aug 11 at 11:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What are you using to gauge the quality, same thing on both PS3 and PC? Same settings for both inputs?
Tiger
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27th Aug 11 at 11:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah same thing. On the PS3 the edge sharpness is clearly better.

Same settings too.
John
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27th Aug 11 at 17:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Was it a video or something?

What's decoding the video on your PC?

Do you definitely have the PC input set so it's displaying pixels 1:1?
Tiger
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28th Aug 11 at 10:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No video, just desktop and photoshop, how do I found out if its outputting at 1:1?

It's set to output at 1080p on the Nvidia control panel.
John
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28th Aug 11 at 11:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What is the TV set to? On the older Samsungs I know it was called 'just scan' it will be different on different TV's though.

How are you judging the quality in photoshop if the PS3 doesn't have that.

Could be loads of things, there will be loads of settings in the nvidia control panel, they should display exactly the same quality though.
BarnshaW
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28th Aug 11 at 11:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

as john mentions they should be the same
will_ainsworth
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28th Aug 11 at 15:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://www.iiyama.com/gb_en/products/prolite-e2472hd-1/

i use two of these, fantastic for the price, check the spec against a dell screen, its better.

John
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28th Aug 11 at 15:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's better than any dell screen?
What specs? All of them?
will_ainsworth
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28th Aug 11 at 18:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no not all dell screens but back when i bought it, it was higher spec than dell which was double the price, my screens are extremely thin too. dell have a new range since i last saw but i paid 140quid per screen, vs a dell 500 per screen...

iiyama
Diagonal 24"
Panel LED-Backlit
Display area h x w 298.89 x 531.36 mm; 11.8" x 20.9"
Response time 2 ms
Contrast 1000 : 1 typical
Contrast 5 000 000 : 1 ACR
Brightness 250 cd/m² typical
Viewing zone horizontal/vertical: 170°/ 160°; right/left: 85°/ 85°; up/down: 80°/ 80°
Display colour 16.7 million
Pixel pitch h x v 0.277 x 0.277 mm
Native resolution Full HD 1080p, 1920 x 1080 ( 2.1 megapixel)
Horizontal sync 31 - 83 KHz
Vertical sync 56 - 75 Hz
Synchronization Separate sync
Aspect ratio 16 : 9



dell (THIS IS THEIR NEW ONE... so its higher spec now )

Dell UltraSharp™ U2410 24" (61cm)W Monitor with PremierColor, Black

DISPLAY
Diagonal Viewable Sizes:
24” (60.96 cm)
Aspect Ratio
Widescreen (16:10)
Panel Type, Surface:
IPS (In-Plane Switching), anti glare with hard coat 3H
Optimal Resolution:
1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz
Contrast Ratio:
1000 to 1 (typical)
Dynamic Contrast Ratio:
80,000:1 (Max)
Brightness:
400 cd/m2 (typical)
Response Time:
6ms (gray to gray) Typical
Max Viewing Angle (vertical/horizontal)
178º vertical / 178º horizontal
Colour Support:
1.07 billion colours
Colour Gamut
110% (CIE 1976)
Pixel Pitch:
0.27 mm
Internal Processing
12 bits
Pixel Per Inch
94




[Edited on 28-08-2011 by will_ainsworth]
John
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28th Aug 11 at 18:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Stats don't mean everything, dell ultrasharp monitors are brilliant, your 140 one isn't better.
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28th Aug 11 at 18:35   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My U2410 on my desk is the best screen I have ever looked at, ever.

 
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