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Author Putting a Combi in. currently got a back boiler
Tom J
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13th Sep 11 at 21:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Should i replace the radiators? They look alright and probably about 10-15 years old

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Nismo
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14th Sep 11 at 09:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i would myself, rads dont cost alot and new ones are more efficient and your old ones have probably been painted a few times thus not giving out as much heat as they should.

This time of year screwfix do them pretty cheap.
John
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14th Sep 11 at 11:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Depends how many radiators you have.

100 quid a radiator isn't cheap if you need to replace 10 of them.
Nismo
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There not that much, you have to bare in mind that new double convector's are more efficient than older singles so you can get smaller sizes with higher BTU output, you would be looking at around £40-60 for your average rad.
harrisp
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14th Sep 11 at 13:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If there is nothing wrong with them then don't change them, just get TRVs on each rad when you have the boiler done.
mattk
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14th Sep 11 at 16:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if theres nothing worng with them leave them, it will save you money and save you decorating if you need to put new smaller ones in. change all the valves and get the installer to do a good quality system flush.

Back boiler conversions are messy jobs, pitty your not closer Id have popped round and given you a guide price
Baskey
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14th Sep 11 at 18:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm not going to bother replacing my radiators when I get my back boiler changed in the new year. Iv got about 8 I think and a couple are quite big so I don't think it's worth it.

When my mate came to service my back boiler last month he said getting the back boiler removed and a combi fitted would be £2200ish but it will obv depend on your house, boiler etc
John
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14th Sep 11 at 20:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I hope your mate isn't charging you 2k for a boiler
Jake
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14th Sep 11 at 20:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

2200 fitted sounds about right to me
harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by Jake
2200 fitted sounds about right to me


2200 is a decent price for that.

[Edited on 14-09-2011 by harrisp]
Baskey
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14th Sep 11 at 20:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by John
I hope your mate isn't charging you 2k for a boiler


Was a rough price for removing back boiler from dinning room and fitting a decent combi in the kitchen. Seemed ok to me, iv had no other quotes though
mattk
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14th Sep 11 at 22:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£2200 is about right for a back boiler conversion

decent 28kw boiler with a flue is £700
Pipe + Fittings £300
thermostat + Timer £100
Electrician to wire it up £100
Building materials to brick the chimney up £50
Labour x 2 £600

Thats me at £1850, add a bit on for tax, fuel, flux,solder,gas ect ect I would round that to £2k

If it was a mate it would obviously be less.

can be alot of work in a back boiler job, depending where the new combi is going you need to get a 22mm gas, hot, cold and 2 heating pipes to it. when changing a normal boiler you would normaly have the heating pipes and the gas. you dont have that luxury with a BB, unless the combi goes in the chimney breast
harrisp
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15th Sep 11 at 08:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

John will be along shorty to tell you you're wrong mattk.
John
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15th Sep 11 at 08:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No, Matt is obviously correct, I'd expect to pay somebody 2.2k for fitting it, not a mate doing it.
Baskey
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He said it would take about 3 days as I would want the combi relocated a fair distance away from the back boiler (other side of the house)

Mattk, cheers for the breakdown, I think he said the price included a flush out of the system. What would this normally be?

Tom J
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In my house the new boiler will be sited directly above one floor from where the gas comes in the house, when i boarded out the living room i have buried a 3m long 22mm pipe in the wall up to the location ready, its not connected to anything just means i won't have pipes running up the walls.

if i was having all of the rads replaced (7). priced them up at £335 from screwfix, thats doubles downstairs (currently singles) and singles upstairs, would it still need powerflushing as it would be literally just pipework left?

considering putting the new rads in ready, and pipes altered ready up to the new boiler then getting someone in to do the gas work (i can solder won't be using naff hep2o)



[Edited on 15-09-2011 by Tom J]
John
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15th Sep 11 at 11:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£335 isn't bad for nice clean new radiators tbh.
deanmcreynolds26
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15th Sep 11 at 13:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

or fit a condensing back boiler.....

biggest waste of money i reckon though

 
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