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Daimo B
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17th Apr 03 at 17:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Nope, i meant C16XE
Your will also be able to buy a brand new X16XE as well. As can u get a C20XE as well i think.
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17th Apr 03 at 17:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
wow a brand new C16XE for a grand! Just ripe for some modiFLYing frenzy!!!!
Marc
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U cant beat the instant power of a bigger capicity engine tho!...
Mav 3000
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17th Apr 03 at 18:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
For the novices among us whats the difference between an X16 and a C16?

and does a 164TB kit give you an extra 164 BHP or something? How much BHP does it provide?

How much BHP is a 1.6 16v and how much is a 2.016v?

Cheers!

[Edited on 17-04-2003 by Mav 3000]
Daimo B
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C16XE is the earlier GSi engine with 109bhp. Comes without EGR Valve, or air circulation pump (bit that goes from the downpipe, accross the front of the engine and into the black pump). Just a few changes, but for minor modding (like aftermarket inlet manifolds etc) its the better engine to tune.

When you get to TB region, the X16 and C16 lumps are about the same.

The 164 kit is said to get 164bhp, but every engine reacts differently to different engine mods. Cna see 150bhp, can see 170bhp! Jsut depends on luck really.

i.e Vauxgirl on here had a 1.6 16v on the 164 kit. Had no end of problems with it after that. Sold it to a nova guy and a few months later on a track day he blew it.

Lisa now has a 2.0litre!

C16XE 109bhp - 0-60 = 8.9 = 121mph
X16XE 106bhp - 0-60 = 9.5 = 119mph
X16XEL 100bhp - ? (the dodgy lump steve106gti sold me )

[Edited on 17-04-2003 by Daimo B]
Mav 3000
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17th Apr 03 at 19:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Thanks Daimo. Cleared that one up!
Mav 3000
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17th Apr 03 at 19:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So you can buy a C16 from Vauxhall - does it come boxed in bubblewrap?

Is 1.5k sound about right?
Daimo B
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Oh, the C16 has a plastic inlett manifold where-as the X16 (and X14XE) have metal inlet manifolds.

Early GSi's sound superb with K+N's. Much deeper than the later metal manifold models.

2.0litre 16v came with 150 and 156bhp, depending whether the car came with a CAT or not.
Also teh pathetic 136bhp 2.0litre 16v Ecotec!
Mav 3000
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17th Apr 03 at 19:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
but isn't plastic not as good as metal or doesn't it matter?
Daimo B
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Doesn't really matter. its only air flowing through it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
X16XE is the earlier GSi engine with 109bhp. Comes without EGR Valve, or air circulation pump (bit that goes from the downpipe, accross the front of the engine and into the black pump). Just a few changes, but for minor modding (like aftermarket inlet manifolds etc) its the better engine to tune.

When you get to TB region, the X16 and C16 lumps are about the same.

The 164 kit is said to get 164bhp, but every engine reacts differently to different engine mods. Cna see 150bhp, can see 170bhp! Jsut depends on luck really.

i.e Vauxgirl on here had a 1.6 16v on the 164 kit. Had no end of problems with it after that. Sold it to a nova guy and a few months later on a track day he blew it.

Lisa now has a 2.0litre!

C16XE 109bhp - 0-60 = 8.9 = 121mph
X16XE 106bhp - 0-60 = 9.5 = 119mph
X16XEL 100bhp - ? (the dodgy lump steve106gti sold me )


"X16XE is the earlier GSi engine with 109bhp" daimo means c16xe.

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Daimo B
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17th Apr 03 at 20:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Doh, type, i meant C16XE is the earlier lump in the GSi, replaced by the X16XE in 94.

[Edited on 17-04-2003 by Daimo B]
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
C16XE engines are about £1000 from vauxhall NEW.

Vibrio, u can't, but when u go to meets shows and cruises people are interested. You don not attend these event hence wouldn't understand.

164TB kit for the 1600 16v is about £2k


but why would people want to see them. what do you look at oh yeah theres an engine. theres a inlet, there's an actuator. WTF are you looking at when you open the bonnet
Marc
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18th Apr 03 at 10:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
depends if ur lukin under the bonnet of a REAL car tho doesnt it!
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I just don't understand what your ment to be looking at.
Marc
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Shiny things evry1 likes shiny things!!!
Daimo B
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Its just interesting to see what people have done under the bonnets
Kerry
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18th Apr 03 at 22:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
its best bit of a car under the bonnet
A1EX
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after all thats the bit that makes the car move

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