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HarleyMK
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27th Apr 12 at 15:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi all,

Been thinking of removing the power steering from the car, is it simply a case of removing the old rack and all the power steering pump and pipe etc and fitting a non power steering rack or would I have to change the collum as well?

Harley
dannyboy17
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29th Apr 12 at 10:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dont think you have to change the collum, could be wrong though
Jed D
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29th Apr 12 at 10:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

why you want to do away with it?
Mike
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29th Apr 12 at 10:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just the rack that needs changing. You have the choice of the standard manual rack or an EPS rack which is quicker (less turns lock-to-lock)
HarleyMK
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quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
why you want to do away with it?


just always preferred non power steering and wondering how hard it would be to change, seems pretty simple cheers guys
Mike
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29th Apr 12 at 12:08   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Actually, I'm forgetting, you need an altenator mount and altenator belt off a non-PAS X14XE as well, that's the more awkward one as non-PAS X14s aren't particularly common.
dannyboy17
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he has a 1.6 16v
HarleyMK
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike
Actually, I'm forgetting, you need an altenator mount and altenator belt off a non-PAS X14XE as well, that's the more awkward one as non-PAS X14s aren't particularly common.


That's the easy bit cause I'm going xe
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he has a 1.6 16v


Yes, when he removes his power steering pump his current belt and tensioner will be useless and they didn't make X16s without PAS so he would need X14 non-PAS bits for the new belt route but obviously that's not an issue for him.
HarleyMK
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thanks for your help mate
JaffaTB
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i've heard you can use the PAS rack without the rest of the PAS setup (just the rack with all the pipework removed)
HarleyMK
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quote:
Originally posted by JaffaTB
i've heard you can use the PAS rack without the rest of the PAS setup (just the rack with all the pipework removed)


you can but it will be extremely hard to turn, if youve ever driven a car with power steering thats not working youll notice its alot harder to turn that it would be if it just didnt have PAS
Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by HarleyMK
quote:
Originally posted by Mike
Actually, I'm forgetting, you need an altenator mount and altenator belt off a non-PAS X14XE as well, that's the more awkward one as non-PAS X14s aren't particularly common.


That's the easy bit cause I'm going xe



it balls down to personal preference i suppose but i had a go in a XE without p/s the other day and OMFG!! it was solid to turn. dont think il be doing that. maybe eps
scottyp1989
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29th Apr 12 at 19:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by HarleyMK
quote:
Originally posted by JaffaTB
i've heard you can use the PAS rack without the rest of the PAS setup (just the rack with all the pipework removed)


you can but it will be extremely hard to turn, if youve ever driven a car with power steering thats not working youll notice its alot harder to turn that it would be if it just didnt have PAS


Thats because you are trying to work against the fluid, with no fluid it should be the same as a normal rack

 
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