Steve
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Talk to me,
advantages? disadvantages? does size matter of the rad? any ones to avoid?
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smcGSI16V
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On a bog standard ford engine, no point. imho.
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Steve
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fair do's
one other thing, i assume with one fitted the quantity of oil required goes up and you would have to put more than the 4.7 standard capacity in, or have i got that wrong
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Adam_B
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oil capacity goes up stigtly but they are pointless on anything other than a highly tuned engine, 1 more thing to go wrong.
[Edited on 25-06-2012 by Adam_B]
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SportBoy
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Stop thinking Steve, Your brain will melt. 
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BarnshaW
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had one on mine when i got it, a 24 row mocal one, it did reduce the temps by about 10 degrees on the road , it had to have a different filter on it and used one of them sandwich filters which constantly leaked.
had it unplumbed and went back to normal and was much better, oil also got upto temp quicker and stayed there.
if your going on track though like you and oil temp really is a worry then its good, other then that you dont really need one
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smcGSI16V
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Oil coolers are an important addition to any high performance engine which gets worked hard. Engines which are constantly revved high can easily overheat the oil which then becomes thinner and offers less protection, resulting in premature engine wear.
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SportBoy
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an engine used hard would probably be better with a different grade of oil to deal with higher temps also.
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Mertin
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Can oil coolers have a negative effect on a car thats just being used on the road, and prevent the oil from getting up to temperature? Too much cooling?
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smcGSI16V
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Yep. My corsa was only ever used hard in the last 4 years I had it and it never had an oil cooler. Was fine.
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BarnshaW
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quote:
Originally posted by Mertin
Can oil coolers have a negative effect on a car thats just being used on the road, and prevent the oil from getting up to temperature? Too much cooling?
yes they can, they can stop the oil reaching its optimum working temperature, especially in the cold
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smcGSI16V
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quote:
Originally posted by Mertin
Can oil coolers have a negative effect on a car thats just being used on the road, and prevent the oil from getting up to temperature? Too much cooling?
Very much so especially on a cold day the oil could take a long time to get up to its optimum temperature.
[Edited on 25-06-2012 by smcGSI16V]
Fuck you barnshaw.
[Edited on 25-06-2012 by smcGSI16V]
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Nic Barnes
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Thermostat controlled one then.
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BarnshaW
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or as barnes says a thermostatic one, would then use a oil filter relocation thingy? fair cost for something not needed really, do you have an oil temp gauge, just check what temp it gets upto on a track on a session and see if you need one.
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Nic Barnes
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Not necessarily need re location can just use sandwich plate which it needs anyway but get one with thermo in it.
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connollygt30
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Nic,would you say these are a necessity on a LET?
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LeeM
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Good thing for a track car imo, just not if it's a road car doing relatively short journeys in cold weather.
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connollygt30
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What if its a road car that will get a hard time now and again?
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Nic Barnes
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For standard one Micheal unless you're spanking the crap out the engine all the time with lots of powers and rpm.
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connollygt30
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Have a look at my project thread Nic,it should be doing decent power,got a new mocal with the car but no lines and it seems like its going to be a pain getting lines made up etc etc
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LeeM
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Can be handy if you have a big turbo running decent boost as that will heat the oil up pretty quickly
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Nic Barnes
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Mine just runs the lines it came with in the kit. Fit alright.
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antnee
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If you use the car on track then yes, get one. Unless someone would like to honestly say that 130deg oil temp is good for the oil/engine then an oil cooler is a great buy.
I bought a 19row 235mm wide cooler with thermostatic sandwich plate, cost about £150 all in. Damp day around 15deg air temp before the cooler saw oil temps of 125-130deg constantly, sunny dry day air temp of 25deg with the cooler saw oil at no higher than 110, usually nearer the 100mark. Also on the motorway the temp sits around 90 instead of 100.
(My engine is standard internally)
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