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john_redtop
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22nd Jan 13 at 09:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right guys my mate recently bought a corsa 20xe but when the previous owner done the conversion for some reason he fitted the engine (early type non lambda) with a later loom and ecu witch has the plug on for a lambda the car does some time run a bit lumpy and spluttery then other times it can run spot on. What my question is would it be fine to fit a lambda sensor even though its a early engine? We plan to drill the manifold get a nut that fits the lambda and weld the nut to the manifold

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andy_mk3
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22nd Jan 13 at 09:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah it'll be fine. The engine itself will be virtually identical anyway, it's just a different management system.
john_redtop
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22nd Jan 13 at 09:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ok mate cheers I thought it would be just wanted to check
Ohh and once fitted will this sort the lumpyness and splitter out do you think

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Would anyone recommend doing the earth on pin 20 to bypass the lambda or just fit one instead although earthing it would be a lot less of a mess on
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id fit a lambda to be honest if its on later managment. it will run better and probably be better on fuel.
john_redtop
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22nd Jan 13 at 20:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cheers mate yeah were just gonna fit one do it propley
Jed D
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22nd Jan 13 at 21:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

drilling and welding a nut on for the lambda to screw into could possibly give it an incorrect reading causing it to run rich or lean depending on how the lambda sits... surely you could pick up a lambda type manifold cheap enough mate?
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22nd Jan 13 at 21:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If the wiring is in for lamda ECU will want the reading, will save on fuel as it will be running rich, is the tail pipe black?

You could also send a fool voltage(0v - 5v) to ecu to give the correct value for lamda 1.

You also need to send the Pre cat temp
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22nd Jan 13 at 23:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

an easy option would be to swap the ecu for an early none lambda one but still use the exisitng loom and earth pin 20 like you have said.
earthing pin 20 wont work on a lambda ecu.
Darryl H
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22nd Jan 13 at 23:10   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by ianofbhills
an easy option would be to swap the ecu for an early none lambda one but still use the exisitng loom and earth pin 20 like you have said.
earthing pin 20 wont work on a lambda ecu.


Earthing pin 20 works on all dizzy ecus IIRC. Done it on mine on two different ECU's


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If you get the AFM adjusted well enough then you should be fine. There was some photos in my project thread how to adjust the AFM if you get stuck


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john_redtop
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23rd Jan 13 at 00:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lambda sensor has been bought now as for the drilling gonna see were exacly they sit but would it really make a difference if it was a couple of mm from its normal place? As for the earthing of pin 20 im just going off what i have read here early type ecu non lambda is already earthed and later types isnt same type ecu was used on both so i have read but maybe wrong
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23rd Jan 13 at 01:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would fit the lambda,i have a half a lambda boss i you want it?the one i bought was too long so i only needed half.

 
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