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AlexW
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17th Sep 13 at 21:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Found this by chance more than anything, Thread on the Clio forum, PMed and made a 65mile trip Friday night to view it, before going back Sunday to collect. Didn't plan to, but ended up towing it home using my DCi....



Next morning, First time I had properly seen the car in the daylight. Its very clean for the miles and age, Including full service history and the spare key.



The reason we had to tow it back, Believed to be shreaded cambelt... Quick before picture...



Easy bits removed



This don't look good....



More stuff removed to help me gain access...



I have since got the head off (Pics tomorrow), 14 Bent valves, few broken rockers and found the cause of it all...


The above is one rib from the Aux belt, clearly made its way into the timing belt covers and caused the belt to slip, theres no broken teeth or anything on the cambelt, This is why its so important to have the aux belt changed when it should be done, and by somebody who knows what their doing, as I think its been destroyed due to the A/C compressor having 6 ribs, and the belt being put on the wrong 5 ribs.

More tomorrow.
LukesCorsaSXi
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17th Sep 13 at 21:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Another nice Clio. What's the plan? Fix it up and sell it on?
Jamie-C
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17th Sep 13 at 21:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

MG's are notorious for that, aux belt snaps and wraps round the bottom pulley causing the belt to slip. Cool car you got though, for keeps or money earner?
Edges 58
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18th Sep 13 at 06:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lovely colour that!! Would prefer to have that over my liquid yellow one! Guessing it was really cheap due to the belt issue?
AlexW
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18th Sep 13 at 20:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Plan is to fix it, Drive it for a couple of weeks, then sell to my mate, Hes fallen in love with it.

These Clio's are notorious for it too, mostly by, as per this, people fitting the Aux belt incorrectly on the aircon compressor.

Edges, I prefer LY! And reasonably cheap, Cost me £475, but it is bloody mint otherwise!
AlexW
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18th Sep 13 at 20:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Got the head off last night as I mentioned...


14 clearly bent



Can you say, bent?


Turns out its done all 16, Plus 9 rockers. All ordered up now, Most of it should be here tomorrow, Head is being skimmed, valve guides replaced too.

Hopefully have it fixed by the weekend, although Im now lacking time!

May be another update tomorrow.
csifku
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18th Sep 13 at 21:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ohh mate, iv had it same .. night mare :/ but not hard as it looks like ) good luck mate
ArdenblueDan
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Love these clios makes me miss mine lol
Edges 58
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19th Sep 13 at 06:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Are you replacing with standard 2 piece valves or upgrading to 1 piece? If you prefer LY... Part ex??
AlexW
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19th Sep 13 at 07:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Keeping standards, If I were to keep it, I'd go all out on it, but as I'm selling it (to my mate), I'm only doing some minor power upgrades, 182 exhaust manifold, possibily 197 cams if I can talk him into them too.

Simon_16v
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What is needed to run 197 cams in the 182 head Alex?
AlexW
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19th Sep 13 at 09:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Need to set the timing differently, that's it really, it will need a remap, as it will run lumpy at idle and possibly be a bit lean.

Edges 58
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19th Sep 13 at 20:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do you know the degree difference you have to run with them Alex? There's a specialist around London that did all the research and keeping everything secret!
AlexW
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19th Sep 13 at 21:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I don't, but I know somebody with the tool to do it (a bent standard horseshoe)

Theres a few people that know about it now, its not as well known as say a XE cam in a LET engine, but its not 20 years old either lol.
Edges 58
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20th Sep 13 at 12:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Handy to know that!! You on the cliosport.net forum?
AlexW
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20th Sep 13 at 13:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I am indeed, have threads over there for both this and my DCi sport rep.

Assume you are too?
Edges 58
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20th Sep 13 at 18:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I am, same user name. Almost anyway. Started a thread for mine but not updated it for ages.

[Edited on 20-09-2013 by Edges 58]
AlexW
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5th Oct 13 at 20:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

BIG update

First up, rebuild head. 16 new valves, skimmed, 6 new rockers, new valve stem seals, decoked and valves lapped in. Lifters drained too.


Block face cleaned up, pistons decoked etc.


Quality Payne gasket


Then a expensive box from Renault Wolvo appeared, this meant I could crack on with some more...


Like getting it all back together, timing done (With correct tools!)


Genuine plugs..


Really cracking on with it now


Few more bits..


Then completed! (Rail guard fitted 2mins after this pic!)


First start video too...


It ran a lot better after this vid, idled properly, revved properly and stopped tapping (that would have been due to no oil in lifters/Dephaser)


Took it for a drive, mostly okay, needs a couple of little bits..


Then took it for a mini photo shoot with Paris Peach, the 172 being driven by its new owner





Some of the pics are piss poor, camera can't deal with no light at all

Suits little Terry


Its now left my drive, With its new owner (Terry), and will be back for more stuff as per usual with the fleet of Clio's I care of!

I can confirm a K-tec Stealth sounds good too.

Will keep this thread up to date with progress since there is still more to come, and Terry already has plans!

 
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