FlaFFy_91
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I can but I'd rather not to be honest mate
Some people enjoy magic and watching it so I don't perticulaly want to ruin it for the few that do, plus if I tell you I'd be going against what I've always been told
Magicians never reveal there secrets 
That is quite possibly the gayest reply i've ever read.
Clearly you haven't read scoobs reply to the "what do you ware on a night out" thread
It's not that gay really, if you were into magic you couldn't go round telling people. When you spend as much time practising and learning tricks like any magicians do. Going round telling people makes it feel like a waste of time.
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Ben G
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Is there some kind of magicians code in which paul daniels fiddles with you if you give away the secret?
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Dom
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Originally posted by FlaFFy_91
Just to let you know, the iPhone thing isn't a camera trick.
I suspect there are a few chosen camera angles used to mask the switching the bottle with his assistant.
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Can you explain to us how, flaffy?
Haven't seen Dynamo's performance but have seen similar tricks with other illusionists.
I suspect the illusion goes one of two ways - either everyone is a stooge and 'in' on the trick, which makes things a little simpler, or the public member is lifted (by an assistant) of his/her phone (or item) during a previous trick/illusion (real phone is taken away to be stuffed into a bottle) and a replica phone put back in it's place.
I imagine the first option is the common route, especially with items that can't be replicated easily.
It's then just a simple 'sleight of hand' trick.
So the bottle gets shown around to the audience, fuss is created, audience focuses on the bottle. The performer then asks for a phone/item, again shown around, fuss is created but while the audience is focused on the phone/item in the performers hand, the bottle it taken out of view and a assistant, positioned close by, switches bottles in the performers hand.
Then during the suppose trick, the phone/item will end up the performers sleeve or in a pocket (big coats are a give-away here) and the prepared bottle is shown to the audience.
Edit - Quick Youtube would have saved me a few minutes typing 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIzeP2d-o8I&hd=1
The assistant is the bloke in glasses at the back; it clearly shows the bottle going out of frame to the assistant and the camera angle changes as an attempt to mask it; the phone ends up in a inside pocket of his coat.
[Edited on 20-10-2013 by Dom]
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Dom
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Some people just like to think there awesome for figuring it out and posting it on the internet. (Not a personal dig at yourself man)
No, just that most people grew up, stopped believing in Father Christmas and 'magic' and their interest lies in the mechanics of it all.
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Bart
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The walking through glass was just him crawling on the floor out the doors
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Dave
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The good twist to that trick is ringing his phone at the end, that makes me think they must've lifted his phone earlier, then he's done some other tricks while they've rigged the bottle up.
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Dom
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The good twist to that trick is ringing his phone at the end, that makes me think they must've lifted his phone earlier, then he's done some other tricks while they've rigged the bottle up.
I personally would suspect everyone (Dynamo, assistant, public member and his mate) is in on the illusion otherwise they'd have to carry a few different replica phones around with them.
But as it's for TV, then there's nothing to say they've edited out where he asked for an iPhone or modern phone or the numerous takes where someone pulled out some obscure brick of a phone they didn't have as a replica.
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Tommy
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There is a vid of the phone in the bottle , where a guy behind dynamo handing him a bottle with the phone already in it. So it was either swapped or a trick was done earlier with the person with the phone.
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Tommy
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See here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1YZsvkUK78
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FlaFFy_91
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The good twist to that trick is ringing his phone at the end, that makes me think they must've lifted his phone earlier, then he's done some other tricks while they've rigged the bottle up.
Nope. There's very very very few people in the world that know the trick of putting things In bottles properly. And the people that do know it takes hours to do
He genuinely takes a persons phone
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Some people just like to think there awesome for figuring it out and posting it on the internet. (Not a personal dig at yourself man)
No, just that most people grew up, stopped believing in Father Christmas and 'magic' and their interest lies in the mechanics of it all.
Fair enough people know but why go posting it all over the internet? Other than you want to look cool to others. Pointless
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Is there some kind of magicians code in which paul daniels fiddles with you if you give away the secret?
Pretty much tbh. Will get kicked out of the magic circle if your caught
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Dom
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Fair enough people know but why go posting it all over the internet? Other than you want to look cool to others. Pointless.
Someone asks a question, someone answers it - that's how it usually works
But if an 'average joe' can work out your 'magic' trick then clearly you aren't doing a good enough job
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John
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Flaffy, nobody in the world can put a phone in a bottle in a way that defies physics.
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FlaFFy_91
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Flaffy, nobody in the world can put a phone in a bottle in a way that defies physics.
Not sure if your being serious or not?
Do you think I believe he can physically do it or something?
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Originally posted by FlaFFy_91
Fair enough people know but why go posting it all over the internet? Other than you want to look cool to others. Pointless.
Someone asks a question, someone answers it - that's how it usually works
But if an 'average joe' can work out your 'magic' trick then clearly you aren't doing a good enough job
Fair enough. As I've said. Dynamos big stuff like that isn't very good. His loops and close up is jaw dropping though
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Ste
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Bottle will be cut, then cut faces polished and 5 mins before the trick he will have his mate in glasses pick pocket the phone and swap it with a similar one
then the mate puts it in the bottle and bonds the base back on making it look like one piece.
then in the vid, you can clearly see him swap bottles and throw the dummy phone inside his coat.
The thing is, we can analise it all we want afterwards and blow the trick, but the guy who was there will be amazed and really will believe it was his phone that instantly went in.
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Dom
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I'm still not convinced the bloke, Dynamo is showing the illusion to, is a complete randomer. Rather i suspect he's a stooge along with his mate as i would have thought there are far too many variables for it be performed efficiently for street magic - they've got to match the bottle and get it cut as well as match the item/phone.
But as said, it's for TV so who actually knows what's going on although if it's anything like Blaine's show then it's massively edited and full of stooges.
However, this bottle trick is far more impressive than the typical beer bottle cap getting 'stuffed' inside the beer bottle - Flaffy, i haven't explain this one 
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FlaFFy_91
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Dom. It is a complete random he is showing it too. There are no variables what so ever. Trust me haha. Any "in a bottle" trick is rubbish to be honest. I used to do a 2p in a bottle trick. With a randoms bottle and a randoms 2p. Very impressive to a normal person on the street. To a magician, it's shite
As ste said I guess. You might know how it's done and can sit there telling your friends or on the internet. But the guys you show t to in the street won't know and will be amazed.
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