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Chris C
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3rd Mar 14 at 21:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Anyone have any info on towing laws ?

I passed my test 10 years ago and hearing mixed comments on wether or not I can tow on my licence.

We will be using a lwb Nissan interstar to tow the saxo around.

Could we use an A frame instead of a trailer ?

Any help would be great.
Gary
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3rd Mar 14 at 21:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Unladen vehicle plus loaded trailer cannot be more than 3.5t. As far as I'm aware.
bigron1988
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3rd Mar 14 at 21:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
a frame are only meant for recovery purpose only so taking a car to a trackday vosa can do you for it ,
antnee
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Max towing weight of the vehicle must be greater than the max gross weight of the trailer, combined they need to be less than 3.5T

Ie max towing weight of 2t for the van, trailer MGW of 1.5T, combined is 3.5T so is ok. A trailer suitable for such duties aren't that common though
Chris C
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Saxo should only weigh 850 ish at a guess ?

Just trying to think of ways of getting to and from track days, seems silly to mot/tax/insure for such little use
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3rd Mar 14 at 22:01   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Will it fit in the van?
Chris C
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3rd Mar 14 at 22:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Lol we did joke about that funnily enough
antnee
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Saxo may only weigh 850 but its the weight the trailer allows (as stamped on the plate)
antnee
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I've seen a Saxo in the back of a Luton, with some massive ramps
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3rd Mar 14 at 22:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Your issue is using the van to tow it,

From a quick google,

Your vans Maximum weight is 3500kg,
Which means you can only tow a 750kg trailer taking you too 4.25t legally on your liesence.


[Edited on 03-03-2014 by gazza808]
Ian
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3rd Mar 14 at 23:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Van is too heavy - 3500kg maximum authorised mass. Therefore you can't legally put any trailer braked trailer on it unless you have +E, which you don't.

You need a lighter tow car, such that the MAM of the car + the trailer remains under 3500kg.

(and that the car is heavier than the trailer but that is more likely to be the case).
Ian
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3rd Mar 14 at 23:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chris C
Could we use an A frame instead of a trailer ?


Not with the van for the above reason, and not unless it activates the brakes on the Saxo.

Unless you can get the Saxo under 750kg, in which case it doesn't need brakes. But you still can't use the van.
Chris C
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4th Mar 14 at 12:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ian so if I do the +E licence I can tow with the van ?
Ian
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4th Mar 14 at 13:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Yeah, with +E you'd be sound.
Chris C
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Cool I'll look into that then.

 
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