wainey
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mate wants advice on which to get, at the mo hes got a 4 branch exhaust naifold, de-cat and full stainless system, which is the better option?
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broster
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manzel is ment to give a few more bhp, also looks better imo
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Greasemonkey
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Agree with Broster, but there aint nothing wrong with the Velos product very popular
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luca2020
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velos is alot cheeper, with similer power gains
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Cybermonkey
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This decision entirely decides upon how style concious he is. If he dont mind paying a bit more for a nice looking product, then get the mantzel, if he dont mind an off shaped cylinder painted bright blue at the back of the engine bay, then get the Velos. Both offer similar power gains
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vibrio
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Dbalis is better IMHO
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Fraser Young
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quote: Originally posted by vibrio
Dbalis is better IMHO
Yeesh Dbilas loads better but more expensive still over other two...
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wainey
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think around 400mark is his price range so hes trying to work to that!
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vibrio
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I like the velos
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vibrio
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the Dbilas is around £460
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Neshol
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Power gains from each?
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wainey
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quote: Originally posted by vibrio
the Dbilas is around £460
am i right in saying that all these 3 are basically the same thing in respect of them trying to improve airflow by removing masses of crap in the induction system? vibs is there a site for dbilas?
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Fraser Young
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http://www.dbilas-dynamic.de
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wainey
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cheers mate!
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Ed Renshaw
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I got 22bhp with my Torq Tube
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Neshol
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What engine mate?
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wainey
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quote: Originally posted by Ed Renshaw
I got 22bhp with my Torq Tube
this is the x14xev though, what did u have done along with the torq tube to get 22bhp? when we phoned the chap on the phone said it needs to be unichipped aswell
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purple_B
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i have the plenum(in vibs piccy) and a unichip,cat back exhaust and a filter.
went from 106bhp to 137bhp.so ive got to say go velos(ive heard 2 many horror stories about courtney over the years)
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purple_B
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i have a 1.6 sport,not gsi.also u can get the torque tube for less than £300 if u want 2 fit it yourself
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jr
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i've got the manztel on my 1.4
running 136bhp
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miles
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Velos item simply because its much cheaper. Does the same job. For the cost of the mantzel you could get the velos bean can one.
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Fad
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Mantzel box, always seen text book gains and its TUV aproved too
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vibrio
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so the Dbilas
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miles
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The gains are from ditching the standard crap, not from the excellent design of the replacements. The mantzel powerbox isn't exactly a beautifully crafted designed thing. So the power isn't an issue between any of these, the tuv approval only means they are made by rich german companies who can afford it. Performance will be the same.
The velos bean can thing has been thought about, and would give the most power.
The advantage of the manztel is that its cast and could almost look standard.
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vibrio
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the dbilas has given 29hp on a GSi with decat system
[Edited on 15-12-2003 by vibrio]
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