ash_corsa
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when i go over 60mph the steering wheel shakes like hell, ive just put a set of 2nd hand fox evo1's on her, and there were no plastic rings that sit on the hub on the 2 fronts but there are on the back,
any help much appreciated
thanks
ash
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mike_1.2LS96
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Probably buckled if I know the wheels you mean.
The plastic things won't do anything like that
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Adam_B
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You have no spiggot rings on the front 
get some before you drive the car again mate !
[Edited on 11-07-2004 by Adam_B]
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Adam_B
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quote:
Originally posted by mike_1.2LS96
Probably buckled if I know the wheels you mean.
The plastic things won't do anything like that
yes the bit that centralises the wheel on the hub,
dont need them at all 
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mike_1.2LS96
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I don't have any girly plasticy thing on my hubs, never have.
Is this a post-97 thing?
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CorsAsh
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No, its a "since people started putting alloys on their cars" thing...
Ask whoever you got the alloys from if theyve got the rings, as they come off pretty easily when you remove the wheel - previous owner could have taken them off and not realise the rings were left behind. Have you also checked that there are balance weights on the rims? Could need balancing again if not...
Is this why you couldn't come down today Ash? 
[Edited on 11-07-2004 by CorsAsh]
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Adam_B
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no
this is an all cars ever thing
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myke
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they're just to seat the wheel dead centre on the hub.
it's not dangerous without as you still have 4bolts holding it on,just you may get vibration through the steering
having said that though, it could also be that you've lost one of your balancing weights off of a wheel.
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mike_1.2LS96
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I've never seen spiggot rings, they weren't on my car when I got it. Not even on the many scrapped corsas/mates corsas that I've seen.
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Mistamist
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Its a safety thing, the wheel bolts will only take a certain amount of abuse when driving, the spriggot ring allows the pressure to be evenly applied to the hub and takes off some of the stress off the nuts. im sure it wont be nice if you are driving along at 70 and hit a bump and the bolts snap. bye bye wheel (and thats all that will happen if your lucky)
Also try getting the wheels balanced may help a bit.  
[Edited on 11-07-2004 by mistdotcom]
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CorsAsh
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
no
this is an all cars ever thing
My steel wheels didnt have them 
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Adam_B
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you dont usually get them on steelies, just alloys
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mike_1.2LS96
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I don't like what I am reading. Some of you seem to think a bit of plastic will supposrt the weight of the car. The wheel is centred on the steel ring which is attached to the hub, the bolts take the lateral and turning forces.
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Adam_B
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when you pushed the wheel on did it fit tight over the hub?
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Siberia
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the wheels will be moving all over the place without them rings. granted the wheels studs will hold them but without the rings on the wheels will move around eventully loosening the wheels studs i would think.
deffo get some of these.
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by mike_1.2LS96
I don't like what I am reading. Some of you seem to think a bit of plastic will supposrt the weight of the car. The wheel is centred on the steel ring which is attached to the hub, the bolts take the lateral and turning forces.
on my car the steel ring is smaller than the part on my wheels so i need them rings to centralise it. also these stop the wheel from making small movments.
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mike_1.2LS96
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
when you pushed the wheel on did it fit tight over the hub?
I've taken my wheels off and on hundreds of times now
Only last week changed my hub and strut assembly cos they were bent.
I got GM alloys like, so they probably don't need the spiggots. I think I understand now.
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Adam_B
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Yes.
When an aftermarket alloy wheel manufacturer makes a new wheel, they make the center bore of the alloys all the same (the bit that goes over the hub). But not all cars have the same center bore, so the alloys are usually allways bigger than the cars hub (wolfrace usually have a center bore of 75mm), hence you have to adapt it using a spiggot ring. Different cars take different spiggot rings, for example i think vaux are 57.1mm, ford are 63.1 etc etc.
A lot of the time they get wedged in the back of the alloy or they stick to the hub as they have to be a really tight fit, hence why some folk have never even seen or heard of them.
Its probably not dangerous as such to not have them on an aftermarket wheel, but its like the wheel wont be balanced properly every time you drive the car.
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mike_1.2LS96
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
Yes.
When an aftermarket alloy wheel manufacturer makes a new wheel, they make the center bore of the alloys all the same (the bit that goes over the hub). But not all cars have the same center bore, so the alloys are usually allways bigger than the cars hub (wolfrace usually have a center bore of 75mm), hence you have to adapt it using a spiggot ring. Different cars take different spiggot rings, for example i think vaux are 57.1mm, ford are 63.1 etc etc.
A lot of the time they get wedged in the back of the alloy or they stick to the hub as they have to be a really tight fit, hence why some folk have never even seen or heard of them.
Its probably not dangerous as such to not have them on an aftermarket wheel, but its like the wheel wont be balanced properly every time you drive the car.
That cleared it up. Its not going to be on a car with gm wheels then
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Adam_B
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ive never had a set of Vaux alloys, but id say thats a safe bet
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TOMAS
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My god!! Some people
Right. NO piece of plastic ring will stop the wheel from moving when driving/ take pressure etc
The ONLY thing spiggot rings are used for is ease of fitment - to centralise the wheel on the hub. Its 100% safe to drive without them although you could find your wheels arent on straight and you get vibration due to this just like a buckled wheel.
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ash_corsa
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thanks v much guys
looks like id better get some then
the back wheels have got em just we lost the front ones cuz i bought them off a mate
where can i get these rings from?
thanks v much
ash
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deany
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why not put the back wheels on the front and see what happens. its not likely to be your balancing as the wheel would shake all the time. I had a buckled wheel on the front n it shook like hell when i hut sixty. I put it on the back and the probs sorted,you wont notice it on the back
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Greasemonkey
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as /\ he said and also i had a shakey steering wheel which was real bad at the same kinda speeds, turned out i had worn bushes on my front control arms got em swapped and fixed the problem and made it handle ace
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peter_1.2
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wow u need spigot rings. period
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