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Daz T
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Registered: 24th Feb 05
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   15th Mar 05 at 16:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Need help, when doing a 2 ltr conversion..DO you need to strengthen the engine bay??? if so is there a kit you can buy
Rileysport
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15th Mar 05 at 16:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

in a corsa no
carnoisseurcraig
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15th Mar 05 at 17:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

here is a quick list of what and how to do it.

ok... it IS very easy but here you go:
to remove the current engine:
Disconnect and remove the battery
jack up front end, and put car on axel stands.
Remove wheels.
remove hub nuts (30mm deep reach socket required)
remove brake disks and calipers
remove hub carriers from the strut, track rod end and tie bars
remove drive shafts from gear box - you will need a bucket underneeth to catch the gear box oil.
remove exhaust mainfold.
loosen and free the gear linkage
disconnect PAS (and AC) pipes (again bucket required)
remove drivers side kick panel and disconnect ecu from loom and unplug engine loom from car loom.
in the engine bay - pull the engine loom through from the car
remove airbox and induction tubing
depressurise and disconnect fuel lines from fuel rail.
un plug the grey plug near the gear box (connects aux loom to car loom) - disconnect the car loom from the positive battery terminal
remove water pipes, rad and header tank
remove vacume hose from brake servo
- check there is nothing else connected the engine -
support the engine (and gear box) with engine hoist
remove the rear gear box mount and disconnect the gear linkage at the top of the gear box
remove the NS engine mount
finally remove the OS engine mount, the enging should now be "loose" in the engine bay
raise the engine out of the engine bay, looking out for any pipes / wires that may not have been disconnected.

prep -
clean the engine bay and make sure all pipes / wires are out of the way
transfer aux loom from old engine to new
remove exhaust mainfold from new engine if it has it fitted
fit new engine loom to engine, (preferably from a cav / cally)
transfer water pipes (heater matrix ones etc) to new engine
remove any engine mounts currently on the new engine
mate new gear box and new engine

Fitting -
lower the engine into the engine bay (gearbox end first - so it needs to be at an angle)
line up and bolt up gear box side mount
continue lowering untill the drivers side mount lines up - when it does, bolt this up.
bolt rear engine mount to gear box and bottom of car - you may need to jack up the back of the engine to do this
connect water pipes to heater matrix
plug grey plug into car loom
connect fuel lines
re instate exhaust mainfold
fit rad, header tank and other water pipes
fit pas pump and connect hoses
connect gear linkage to the top of the gear box
feed engine loom into car - connect to car loom (colour for colour) and plug in ecu
put 4mm drill bit into alignment hole
loosly connect gear linkage to car linkage
select nutral in the car
tighten gear linkage
remove drill bit
comfirm you can get gears
fit vacume hose for brake servo
connect car loom to battery terminal, along with +ve wire from new engine loom
make up exhaust system from mainfold back
fit drive shafts and hubs / hub carriers
fit and bleed brakes
fit wheels
lower onto ground
fit battery
fit induction pipes and air box
fill up water / oil / pas
shut bonnet
turn key
enjoy
Daz T
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Registered: 24th Feb 05
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15th Mar 05 at 17:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers
Daz T
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15th Mar 05 at 17:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my car is a 1.2 ltr, what brakes do i use on the back????
carnoisseurcraig
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15th Mar 05 at 17:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just leave them.
Daz T
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15th Mar 05 at 18:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

iv got a astra 2 ltr 16v red top as a donar car, iv taken engine, gearbox and ecu loom out. Do i need to take fuel pump off, as not sure where mine is(iv a 1.2 ltr 8v with pas) do i need cv off donar car. Also is it true i need a 16v corsa rad..never done conversion and just need advice
Mistamist
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Registered: 16th Jul 03
Location: Gillingham, Kent
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15th Mar 05 at 19:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by carnoisseurcraig
here is a quick list of what and how to do it.

ok... it IS very easy but here you go:
to remove the current engine:
Disconnect and remove the battery
jack up front end, and put car on axel stands.
Remove wheels.
remove hub nuts (30mm deep reach socket required)
remove brake disks and calipers
remove hub carriers from the strut, track rod end and tie bars
remove drive shafts from gear box - you will need a bucket underneeth to catch the gear box oil.
remove exhaust mainfold.
loosen and free the gear linkage
disconnect PAS (and AC) pipes (again bucket required)
remove drivers side kick panel and disconnect ecu from loom and unplug engine loom from car loom.
in the engine bay - pull the engine loom through from the car
remove airbox and induction tubing
depressurise and disconnect fuel lines from fuel rail.
un plug the grey plug near the gear box (connects aux loom to car loom) - disconnect the car loom from the positive battery terminal
remove water pipes, rad and header tank
remove vacume hose from brake servo
- check there is nothing else connected the engine -
support the engine (and gear box) with engine hoist
remove the rear gear box mount and disconnect the gear linkage at the top of the gear box
remove the NS engine mount
finally remove the OS engine mount, the enging should now be "loose" in the engine bay
raise the engine out of the engine bay, looking out for any pipes / wires that may not have been disconnected.

prep -
clean the engine bay and make sure all pipes / wires are out of the way
transfer aux loom from old engine to new
remove exhaust mainfold from new engine if it has it fitted
fit new engine loom to engine, (preferably from a cav / cally)
transfer water pipes (heater matrix ones etc) to new engine
remove any engine mounts currently on the new engine
mate new gear box and new engine

Fitting -
lower the engine into the engine bay (gearbox end first - so it needs to be at an angle)
line up and bolt up gear box side mount
continue lowering untill the drivers side mount lines up - when it does, bolt this up.
bolt rear engine mount to gear box and bottom of car - you may need to jack up the back of the engine to do this
connect water pipes to heater matrix
plug grey plug into car loom
connect fuel lines
re instate exhaust mainfold
fit rad, header tank and other water pipes
fit pas pump and connect hoses
connect gear linkage to the top of the gear box
feed engine loom into car - connect to car loom (colour for colour) and plug in ecu
put 4mm drill bit into alignment hole
loosly connect gear linkage to car linkage
select nutral in the car
tighten gear linkage
remove drill bit
comfirm you can get gears
fit vacume hose for brake servo
connect car loom to battery terminal, along with +ve wire from new engine loom
make up exhaust system from mainfold back
fit drive shafts and hubs / hub carriers
fit and bleed brakes
fit wheels
lower onto ground
fit battery
fit induction pipes and air box
fill up water / oil / pas
shut bonnet
turn key
enjoy



If only it was that simple!
Darren
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15th Mar 05 at 20:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

+ allow for a few sheared off bolts and the like
Gsi_Ire
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15th Mar 05 at 21:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what happened to having to grind drive shafts and the like? (or so i was told?)
Siberia
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16th Mar 05 at 08:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Gsi_Ire
what happened to having to grind drive shafts and the like? (or so i was told?)


who told you?

also personally i wouldnt put the engine and gearbox in the top..... do it from underneath.....

helpfull guide kinda.....

[Edited on 16-03-2005 by Siberia]
Gsi_Ire
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16th Mar 05 at 09:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
quote:
Originally posted by Gsi_Ire
what happened to having to grind drive shafts and the like? (or so i was told?)


who told you?

[Edited on 16-03-2005 by Siberia]


johnh from cruise mentioned something about it...
Siberia
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16th Mar 05 at 10:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

knowing john he probably used spare bits from the 100 vauxhauls he has lying around his yard

get a fitting kit man... it will save you the pain....
carnoisseurcraig
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16th Mar 05 at 11:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

without a doubt put it thru the bottom... far easier. easiest method for shafts is use the corsa shafts with cavvy mk 2 inner cv joints.. will cost ya 60-70 quid from a factors. buy a mount from a guy on migweb called andy16vturbo. that will cost ya 30 sheets, buy an ecotec pipe for vauxhall, 12 sheets, an adapter for the throttle housing, 25 sheets from the migweb guy, ditch ur anti roll bar so ur manifold clears it and ur away.. thats all the parts u need apart from the engine and box.
Siberia
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16th Mar 05 at 11:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by carnoisseurcraig
without a doubt put it thru the bottom... far easier. easiest method for shafts is use the corsa shafts with cavvy mk 2 inner cv joints.. will cost ya 60-70 quid from a factors. buy a mount from a guy on migweb called andy16vturbo. that will cost ya 30 sheets, buy an ecotec pipe for vauxhall, 12 sheets, an adapter for the throttle housing, 25 sheets from the migweb guy, ditch ur anti roll bar so ur manifold clears it and ur away.. thats all the parts u need apart from the engine and box.


do the cvs fit straight onto the corsa shafts? if they did this would save LOADS of messing around...
carnoisseurcraig
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16th Mar 05 at 11:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yup, thats what im running just now... slot straight onto the corsa shaft and right into the box.... thats it job done...

GED2.0CORSA
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16th Mar 05 at 11:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ditch anti roll bar ?????

lower it about an inch and half to clear the manifold

yup im runnin the cavi inners and corsa shafts !!
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ditch ti and get some coilovers set it up right and you wont need it!
carnoisseurcraig
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
ditch ti and get some coilovers set it up right and you wont need it!


Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by carnoisseurcraig
yup, thats what im running just now... slot straight onto the corsa shaft and right into the box.... thats it job done...




OMG how simple! no need for any stupid bearing and hub changes and no need for a FIVE HUNDRED POUND odd fitting kit

Think you have made my day!
carnoisseurcraig
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16th Mar 05 at 12:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nope... as davie dickenson says... cheap as chips...
GED2.0CORSA
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
ditch ti and get some coilovers set it up right and you wont need it!


well tis true u learn some thing new everyday,

dont feel too confident taking it off like so i think ill just stick with it !!

it aint doin no damage being there at the mo !!
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16th Mar 05 at 12:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

go on, u want to do urs now, cause then you can do mine
carnoisseurcraig
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16th Mar 05 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

il go and get the part number for ya..
Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by Gsi_Ire
go on, u want to do urs now, cause then you can do mine



might be getting done ALOT sooner than i thought.....

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