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deanmcreynolds26
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26th Nov 05 at 17:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well story goes like this....

Last night kev goes out, smells really bad gearbox oil...

so the 6 speed came out today and has a hole in it! so we get a 5 speed box get that in and then were on the road for about 12.30 or so!

got to falklands... no-one is their u's all left

guys were really good knew their stuff etc..

Kevs car (aceman) was stuttering a little, not running enough boost as the turbo aint wanting to hold it...

So bigger injectors and fuel pump en route...

Bigger turbo and a decent back box within the next few months as well


252 bhp, 320 lb foot torque

Guys were stunned with the torque, but kev wants more
mav
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26th Nov 05 at 17:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so you made it yeah we could't wait any longer...good result.....


i'll add it on list
vibrio
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26th Nov 05 at 20:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

your 242 is not right. 200nm is only about 148lb ft
Dav
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26th Nov 05 at 21:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

1Nm = 0.738lb-ft

So 242Nm would be 178.5lb-ft

My 169.9Nm would be 125.3lb-ft
mav
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26th Nov 05 at 21:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

To get the lb/ft divide the NM by 1.3558.


rustyarchs
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26th Nov 05 at 21:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

8885 rpm jessseeessss thats more like my FTO

didnt know corsas could go that high

very impressed mate
rustyarchs
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27th Nov 05 at 01:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote



woulda been dam good if it was tho
big eck
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27th Nov 05 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Something suspect about the rollers there yesterday, just lookin at the girls graph and it dont add up at all, turns out like a 40% transmission loss which is way to high for a FWD car
aceman
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28th Nov 05 at 10:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the guys at the rollers where talking to us about your car and said to us its not set up right something to do with the cr ratio he also said whren you lower the cr to run more boost then yea the hores's will go up but the torqe will come down

was kind of happy with the result on my car although i wanted a little more bhp i could live with the torqe seen as i never got alot of stuff done after blowing up th f28 the day before
vibrio
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28th Nov 05 at 14:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

depends how much more bost, what the timing is like also. GT1's are 7.8:1 GT3's are 9.0:1 both produces the same amount of torque and within 6hp (GT1 have more) his torque figure should not be that low at 1.3 bar like wise how come that standardengine bar a FMIC get a hugh gain over standard.
C6DSY
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28th Nov 05 at 19:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
ive been making some calculations based on the figures on my graph above as the tourqu e figure is a bit random. interesting when i worked out what actual rpm he backed off at, not what it says on the graph at all. definitely would have made a fair bit more than 257.........


It is so hard to take drag into rolling road days! binding brakes thick gear oil worn cv joints all of these add to drag every car has a different reading! as far as the whole day everyone seemed pretty happy with there results and anyone that wasn't spoke to kevin. anyone unhappy with there results should speak to kevin at falkland them self and maybe get back on sometime soon! I think for the amount of cars those guys had to get throught thay did a great job. Also well done Mav sorry its so late
C6DSY
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28th Nov 05 at 19:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

your car was an exception. mine and yours just wanted to light up rollers my torque was well low when it was spinning on runs before the slightest bit of wheel spin will lower torque figure. all i can suggest is next time we will get them to tie the back down on them both.
C6DSY
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28th Nov 05 at 20:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You are loosing 51.8 through drag i am only loosing 44.1 but i take it its down to 5 speed and 6 speed box?
vibrio
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29th Nov 05 at 14:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
its not the drag factor that concerns me at all its more the tourque figure, i cant understand why it is so low.
yes thats piss poor. my GT is 200nm standard (148lb ft)
deanmcreynolds26
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29th Nov 05 at 15:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

think ur graph might be mixed up with something else tbh muppet! just doesnt seem to be right at all.. get it to another RR and see what they have to say
Skipz
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29th Nov 05 at 19:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The Rollers at Fakland are piss poor, i've told Kev and Debbie this before, My cousin took his Evo there got 324bhp and 338nm on the rollers took it too dastek and star to get two more RR's done and it rana consistent 389.5bhp and something like 418nm

will have to double check his graphs again but it deffinately increased and both Star and Dastek runs were pretty much the same with just MINOR differences probably down to the weather..

the Maha system falkland run is touted by Kev as the best out there.. seems Dastek and Stars are more accurate to me even though they are older systems, think Star Performance use the maha LPS 2000 system which seems better

[Edited on 29-11-2005 by h18_oab]
C6DSY
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29th Nov 05 at 20:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how did he get an evo to do a rolling road on a 2wd rolling road?
Skipz
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29th Nov 05 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I aint got the foggiest, dont think it was the evo that was tested at falkland when i think about it, but my cousin used to use them constantly as i get discount as my ex's dad used them regular, then Kev started messing him about with RR Runs so he ditched them and uses dastek I'll double check what car it was

the Corsa Turbo was deffo tested there and it ran 180bhp and 210 nm well down on what it should of been it eventually ran 222bhp torque figure i cant remember at dastek


[Edited on 29-11-2005 by h18_oab]
big eck
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1st Dec 05 at 14:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've posted claires graph on a few forums now and everyone said that the figures dont add up, on claires 106 the drag worked out at 41% which is supposed to be way to high and on mine it was only 20% there abouts, I'm gonna find another RR and put claires car on and compare the 2 printouts
Slammed_Corsa
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1st Dec 05 at 18:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Eck i would try AVA in paisley. They have the best rolling road in scotland supposedly.
Slammed_Corsa
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1st Dec 05 at 18:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

AVA strap the car down everywhere possible Muppet. Seen there rollers take 800bhp cossies before.
Slammed_Corsa
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1st Dec 05 at 18:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Paisley mate, Bascically round the back of glasgow airport.
Slammed_Corsa
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corsa_godfather
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1st Dec 05 at 19:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Car Tuning / Car Diagnostics Company: A V A
Telephone: 0141-848 5257
Address: Walkinshaw Rd, Renfrew, PA4 9LP
mav
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1st Dec 05 at 20:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Slammed_Corsa
Eck i would try AVA in paisley. They have the best rolling road in scotland supposedly.


aye and falklands sign says 'the most sophisticated rolling road in europe'

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