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corsacalvin
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to do to a x16xe engine?t.b's or a turbo conversion?how much would each cost to do?
Gaz
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i think it would be TB's, but dont quote me on that
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2nd Jan 06 at 12:45   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yer i would like to no this also!
corsacalvin
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jus interested thats all as i wana do 1 of them wen i put engine in
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courtenay turbo conversion is £2300 fitted, and will give you 150bhp, but it WILL break

TBs are more of a variable price depending on what you get, but, and SBD TP164 kit will be about £2k and give you 164bhp, and better throttle response
Jake
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30bhp from a turbo isnt much is it?
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2nd Jan 06 at 12:53   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
30bhp jake?

44bhp i think

but, the engine can only cope with a low pressure system, as courtenay done uprate anything
Jake
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arent x16xe's about 120 with an aftermarket manifold? Both forced induction 16xe's have used either lexmaul or dblias anyway.
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cant use lexmaul with it as its not pressure rated

courtenay use the standard inlet

mantzel box works well
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why bother , for that price just get a valver!
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
why bother , for that price just get a proper car!


Exactly!
corsacalvin
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and every 1 got a valver like...sum people like 2 be different...rob marriot what manament would u have 2 use to run t.b's?
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i think the sbd kit comes with management supplied, probably omex/mbe with a base map so itll run if you fit it yourself
corsacalvin
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and thats about 2k yea?
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erm... hold on, i'll look at their price list
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2nd Jan 06 at 13:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
TP164 kit, with an uprated coil pack is £1705.73 plus VAT
corsacalvin
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thanks rob
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how hard is it 2 fit
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no idea, never tackled it, but a decent tuner should manage it in a few days
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with throttle bodies- dont they need to be set up by the guys at a rolling road??
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well yeah, but the SBD kit has a base map so you can drive it to/from a rolling road, or just not bother for a while
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fit yourself, not hard. i managed
management with SBD kit is MBE, comes with base map which is apparently rather poor
and need a pretty good base engine to achieve 160bhp+ just bolting the bodies on in my opinion. my engine was putting out 130odd bhp towards its death
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TB's have got to be better in the long run, turbos are sure to be more unreliable
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courtenay turbo conversion are alledgly a bit poor, as they use a spacer plate and 2 head gaskets to lower the compression, which means they leak

apparently

(statement may not be true and i accept no responsibility for what i say, so you cant sue me)
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TB's will be more reliable matey, as the 1.6 engine just isnt hard enough to cope with a turbo, plus the compression ratio in the engine is totally wrong for a turbo

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