vibrio
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there is a POTN advert which as a picture of the pipercross black mamba in it. I too this for pipercross and gave no one else permission to use it. I need to know what other mags (issues to) that this ad has appeared in.
I've got fast and modified march 2006. if you can have a look through any ones you've got and give me the details.
this is the pic

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Robin
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i'll dig out my most recent copy iof max flower and look for ya
I will also check in TV, PVW, Fast ford and performance ford
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douse
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http://www.kcshop.co.uk/c2165.htm looks like they have used it aswell
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vibrio
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here is the POTN ad
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Ian
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Pipercross have probably supplied this in good faith? Depends how you've licenced the pic, whether POTN are acting as an agent for Pipercross, and whether you have actually incurred a loss as a result of that advert being printed.
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Ian
Pipercross have probably supplied this in good faith? Depends how you've licenced the pic, whether POTN are acting as an agent for Pipercross, and whether you have actually incurred a loss as a result of that advert being printed.
incurred loss because I was never paid by POTN for the use of my pic.they are using it to advertise a product they sell to make profit on. only pipercross where given permission to use it not another shop or company. thats the bit I'm unsure about.
I am a member of the NUJ so talking to them on monday.
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Nismo
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How do you know Pipercross never gave them the pic?
I dunno why your so bothered 
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Nismo
How do you know Pipercross never gave them the pic?
I dunno why your so bothered 
pipercross will have given them the pic. the point is they are using it to advertise a product to which they are getting paid for. the other pics were taken by pipercross but that one was taken by me. why I am bothered is because it is loss of income for me.
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Nismo
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Well no its not , If pipercross gave them the pic then thats there choice , you charged pipercross , they paid you , you have received your income.
You sold the picture to pipercross so they can do what they want with it.
They could give it to me i could take a big sizziling poo on it and advertis it and you cannot do anything about it.
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Nismo
Well no its not , If pipercross gave them the pic then thats there choice , you charged pipercross , they paid you , you have received your income.
You sold the picture to pipercross so they can do what they want with it.
They could give it to me i could take a big sizziling poo on it and advertis it and you cannot do anything about it.
it does not work like that nath. I only gave pieprcross permission to use it for their own advertisment. I never said they could give it to shos that sell pipercross products to advertise. I never sold the picture to pipercross. They have limited right to use it. They don't own the copyright.
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Karen
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If they were going to give it to another company to use should they not of aked you first anyway?
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Karen
If they were going to give it to another company to use should they not of aked you first anyway?
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MatG
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unless you have got something in writing and signed by pipercross that they are only soley allowed to use it then you havent a leg to stand on.
You may also lose any potential work from pipercross for being difficult about this picture.
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Steve
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works the other way around matg, the onus is on pipercross to get something signed to say they can use it to do what they like with it
[Edited on 04-02-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
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Steve
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but then i took a picture of my old corsa and fastforward gave it to max power to print in ther ad every week, spose i had a case there too
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by MatG
unless you have got something in writing and signed by pipercross that they are only soley allowed to use it then you havent a leg to stand on.
You may also lose any potential work from pipercross for being difficult about this picture.
actually it don't work like that but thanks for the input
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Mark Petty
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How can u prove that u took the picture?
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Mark Petty
How can u prove that u took the picture?
I have the picture on my hard drive as an original raw, the file is embeded with the name POAH 
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quote: Originally posted by Mark Petty
How can u prove that u took the picture?
how can you prove that you wrote the song Free Falling?
[Edited on 04-02-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
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Mark Petty
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sam
quote: Originally posted by Mark Petty
How can u prove that u took the picture?
how can you prove that you wrote the song Free Falling?
[Edited on 04-02-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
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Mark Petty
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Steve are u still selling your car?
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Steve
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yep interested? its a stupid low price at 3700, iv got someone whos going to buy it, but if someone can get me the cash b4 weds/thurs then its theres!
[Edited on 04-02-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
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Mark Petty
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quote: Originally posted by vibrio
quote: Originally posted by Mark Petty
How can u prove that u took the picture?
I have the picture on my hard drive as an original raw, the file is embeded with the name POAH 
fair enough, write them a shitty email then
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Mark Petty
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sam
yep interested? its a stupid low price at 3700, iv got someone whos going to buy it, but if someone can get me the cash b4 weds/thurs then its theres!
[Edited on 04-02-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
nope just remember seeing it on cliosport.net
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MatG
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pipercross big company - you little nobody photographer.....you will lose.
Good luck though!
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