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JadeM
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5th Mar 07 at 11:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What damage can be done if your engine runs out of water? Happened to the mini over the weekend. Instead of stopping and filling it when cool, mum kept going (for about 8 miles) till she got home. Dad filled it up yesterday and said everything seemed fine. She drove it this morning and it broke down, steam pouring from it again and now it won't start Any ideas what damage might have been done ?

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5th Mar 07 at 11:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

could of got very hot then i think head gasket can go. the steam may be from where new water/coolant was put in and there was an airlock
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Basically no colling of the engine, could easily have cooked something, head
JadeM
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5th Mar 07 at 11:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Apparently when she finally stopped on Friday, the steam was immense infact one of our neighbours thought the engine was on fire
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom
Basically no colling of the engine, could easily have cooked something, head


Is this something major? I haven't got a clue
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5th Mar 07 at 11:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes headgasket prob blown, warped head maybe, need skimming and refitting. Not the end of the world but not cheap either
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5th Mar 07 at 11:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

head gasket would be the first to go, peice of piss on the a series lump.
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Probably just buy a new head tbh.

Get it looked at properly though could've done more damage especially if it was cooking for a bit
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if it's a 1275 i may no of a few heads for sale.
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5th Mar 07 at 12:17   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
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if it's a 1275 i may no of a few heads for sale.

I'll get Colin to take a look at it the next time he's through and I'll let you know if we need one or not
topshot_2k
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ohh an old mini?

The heads tend to be ok on them due to the steel heads rather than aluminium so they dont tend to warp.

when my gf's went it was due to a blockage in the tiny rad on them, so she ordered a larger 4 core one and its been fne since
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headgasket kit is cheap also, try minispares
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Thanks folks, when it happened again this morning there seemed to be water pouring out of somewhere near the front of the engine at the right hand side, near the tank where you fill the water up
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split hose? thermo gasket might have gne?
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5th Mar 07 at 12:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

headgasket.... sounds likely...

But a coolant leak could cause the car to run hot.drain fluids.... BUT running it with no water can lead to warped head and head gasket probs....

not to mention oil/lube probs if the oil temp was high/cooked
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quote:
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headgasket.... sounds likely...

But a coolant leak could cause the car to run hot.drain fluids.... BUT running it with no water can lead to warped head and head gasket probs....

not to mention oil/lube probs if the oil temp was high/cooked


Well according to what she said, the amount of steam coming from it when she stopped was unbelievable

I think a box of matches might be the next step
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5th Mar 07 at 13:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

not really.... steam is water vapour... so there was some water!!!!

fill it up with water, try and see where its coming from...

If its a hose, fix/replace and then test drive close to home and up to temp.

If its coming from the engine it'll be a new head gasket needed, head skimmed
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AK old Aseries had steel heads and dont often warp. Might just be a case of new gasket
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You need to get shot of that car!!
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is it a in good cond? if you break for spares i might be after some
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It needs to be fixed properly this time by someone that knows what their doing, (not an idiot) - then sold!!
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Just spoken to her...........managed to get it started but the pressure of the water is forcing the water to shoot out the plastic bottle thing that you put the water in (with the cap tight on btw)

Oil has been checked and it seems fine, she was told if it was a creamy colour that meant trouble
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
It needs to be fixed properly this time by someone that knows what their doing, (not an idiot) - then sold!!


Yesh ano, try telling her that tho
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Is it shooting out the top?? Might just be the pressure cap thats froooked!!
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Water needs to be blead aswell, you cant just fill it up if its emptied itself it will be full of air & not work properly!!

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