Scotty C
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Fcukin engine has died AGAIN 
Started last night when, It started ticking over at 1600-1700rpm, and a loud noise coming from near the inlet. Today, did a few little runs, and it was fine, come to start it again, wont start.
I thought maybe it could be ICV, so I gave it a bit of gas on start up, ran for about 2 seconds, on three cylinders, ratterling, and banging. Now wont even turn over, just makes a little noise then stops 
Anyone know whats up with it? 
[Edited on 16-03-2007 by Monster]
[Edited on 20-03-2007 by Monster]
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Dave A
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flat battery? if its not turning over...
or maybe the cam belt has snapped and the valve has jammed a piston?
will it turn over by hand?
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Scotty C
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Thank the lord your online 
Isn't flat, didn't turn it over for very long.
Just sounds stuck 
I've had a look at the cambelt, thats all fine.
How do you turn it over by hand?
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Dave A
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£10 to my paypal account or im going offline....
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Dave A
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turn it over using a bar onto the crank bolt.
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Dave A
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carnk bolt is the one in the centre of the bottom drivebelt pulley as in this pic:
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Scotty C
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Cannot get to it.
Just put it in gear, and rocked it, the engine will go backwards, but as soon as it goes forward it will lock and will lock the wheels up before the engine turns over.
There was a big clunk when it fired up for a couple of seconds
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Dave A
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why cant you get to it?
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Scotty C
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There isn't enough room, so I take it you have to jack it up and remove the wheel. Havent got a socket for it anyway
Think i've got bent valves TBH
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Scotty C
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My step-dad said engine can run higher when the timing gets advanced. So this would explain it.
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Dave A
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no, just reach down with a long bar, sure a 15mm socket fits over it. or jack driver side up and remove the wheel, will see it then. remove spark plugs to help make it easier to turn as well.
could even be jammed in gear? checked that yet?
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Scotty C
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Good thinking. It's not stuck in gear. Thats all fine.
My step-dad said to jack it up, and turn the wheel round.
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Dave A
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turn the wheel round to do what? check its not in gear?
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if you put it in a gear and jack one wheel up you should be able to turn the engine over by turning that wheel!
As dave said take the plugs out to make it easier!
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Scotty C
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Put in gear and turn the wheel round to see if the engine turns round.
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Dave A
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but that way you wont feel if theres any slight contact if there is any.
just do it by hand on the crank.
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Scotty C
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If I have bent valves, i'll just get a c16xe head if thats the case. I can't see how the timing has gone out if everything is still in one peice?
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Dave A
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might not have, might be something simple or a valve guide decided to crack or 100 other possibilities.
but from your description it sounds as if the engne or box is jamming. turning it over by hand is a good place to start to find out why.
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
I can't see how the timing has gone out if everything is still in one peice?
tensioner slipped and belt has jumped a few teeth? ive seen this happen a few times.
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Scotty C
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Oh right. I'll turn it over by hand then. Cheers Dave.
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Scotty C
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Took the spark plugs out today. 1, 2 & 4 were fine. 3, however, wasent.
You see the the bit that bends round the top to make the spark? (electrode I think) well, on mine there are two of them, and there both bent up, quite badly
This means? Valve has hit it?
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Scotty C
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My mate, who is a vauxhall machanic said, the belt seems loose, which could be down to the tensioner has worn so it's slipped a few teeth.
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Dave A
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time to get the head off then....
does it turn over well?
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Dave A
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oh and if you need a head, u2u me.
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Also worth investing in some nice SBD rollers and GM tensioners.
I bent 4 valves on mine when i rebuilt the head... i miss timed it by i few teeth!
PS... if you need to borrow my cam locking tool then let me know and ill post it to you.
Trust me its worth having one if you havent got one!
Rob
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