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Author Courtenaysport Englarged throttle bodies
Scotty C
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18th Apr 07 at 14:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Any good, or a waste of money?

Heres what courtenay say about them -

quote:
Courtenaysport
To a large extent, the power and torque out put on any engine is dependent on the volume of air its capable of drawing in. Research shows that the standard GM throttle bodies fitted to most Vauxhall engines are undersized and act as a bottle-neck to the inlet charge, pegging back power and torque. To over come this we dismantle the throttle body and use a CNC lathe to enlarge the diameter of the unit, as well as installing a new, bigger throttle disc and low profile spindle to suit. Typically, this results in an increase in full throttle cross sectional area of between 10 and 20%. The result? Improved torque and power outputs usually in the order of 4 to 7 bhp, as well as superior throttle response and a sharper feel to the engine. All throttle body reworking is carried out on an exchange basis.


Corsa 1.4/1.6 - £255 on exchange

Thanks.

[Edited on 18-04-2007 by Monster]
topshot_2k
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18th Apr 07 at 14:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

not sure if they are worth it, guy put one on his GTi 6 and it made very little in terms of power but throttle response was changed and bcame a lot more sensitive etc
Dave A
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18th Apr 07 at 14:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had one (homemade one) on my x16xe with a mantzel, wouldnt say it was worth the money or provided any gains really.
Scotty C
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18th Apr 07 at 14:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So the gains of 4-7bhp are complete bollocks then

Really trying to get to 150bhp with a remap, and I don't think i'm going to, so thinking of anything to add a few more bhp
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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18th Apr 07 at 14:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my mate did me 1 for free at his work.... just drilled it out



oh well... fitting soon then we'll c....
Scotty C
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18th Apr 07 at 14:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Let me know Joe, then he can do mine if hes up for it

So, he just drilled it out, and fitted a bigger butterfly?

[Edited on 18-04-2007 by Monster]
topshot_2k
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no, certainly not 7bhp worth it but not for that money
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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18th Apr 07 at 14:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what u mean the valve that opens / closes?

i presumme not.... on it is there a lip of sorts // somthing that can be ground down to make smoother air flow? my mates vts had 1 done// exchanged his for £70...

he said it made it run smoother // didnt notice anything power wise.. only a r/r would verify i suppose...

this guys having a bubble at £200+ lol

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thinking about it.... you may not even get 4- 7bhp from a chip let alone "bore-ing" something out

[Edited on 18-04-2007 by joes_1.4_16v_sport]
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yes the 'lip' that attaches onto the pivot bar thng, they normal reduce this in size and generally make it flow better
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18th Apr 07 at 14:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fit N2O if you want to beat the 150bhp mark?
Scotty C
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The blue bit, thats the butterfly, he must make that bigger in order to flow more air though into the inlet.

[Edited on 18-04-2007 by Monster]
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
Fit N2O if you want to beat the 150bhp mark?


Don't want to go that mad!
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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oh well.... on the walls on my mates VTS had a lip / curve....

god no's why... anyway.... he smooothed it off for £70...

my friend could of done that himself but atleast he knew what he was looking for....

most ppl wouldnt tell if it had been done + just put a standard 1 back on+ say "it gave me 10bhp"
topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster


The blue bit, thats the butterfly, he must make that bigger in order to flow more air though into the inlet.

[Edited on 18-04-2007 by Monster]




that bar you see across the middle when the throttle is open thsi creates a 'wall' which air hits, they reduce the impact this has on air flow, TBH mate i wouldnt pay over £100 for opeing the throttle out etc
Scotty C
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18th Apr 07 at 15:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
quote:
Originally posted by Monster


The blue bit, thats the butterfly, he must make that bigger in order to flow more air though into the inlet.

[Edited on 18-04-2007 by Monster]




that bar you see across the middle when the throttle is open thsi creates a 'wall' which air hits, they reduce the impact this has on air flow, TBH mate i wouldnt pay over £100 for opeing the throttle out etc


Is that all they do Fook that then I'll get mine modified
Dave A
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18th Apr 07 at 15:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get aftermarket management on it, junk the standard ecu and loom, get it mapped properly and you will get 150bhp
Scotty C
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18th Apr 07 at 15:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can't afford aftermarket managment.

I know it's costly, but how much?

[Edited on 18-04-2007 by Monster]
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18th Apr 07 at 16:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I wouldn't bother with the enlarged TB. Too much money for not much gain.
20valver
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8th Oct 08 at 13:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

have tried three different sizes of throttle body and yes they make a difference
Dan Lewis
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8th Oct 08 at 14:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
have tried three different sizes of throttle body and yes they make a difference


prove it please rr graph

Thanks
Cossie
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8th Oct 08 at 14:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

trying to get one myself done too just enlarge it few mm I have email few tuners from net as everyone different opinions and different work but most of them do not enlarge the flap they just modifie the tb to flow better and lot of ££ for nothing and yes larger tb do some difference as you can get some more Air in !

[Edited on 08-10-2008 by Cossie]
Vaux Lad
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8th Oct 08 at 15:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Waste of money
GavCorsa
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8th Oct 08 at 21:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

better of getting a spare tb and getting the dremmel out !

best way and cheaper too - if u have access to good cutting machines and measuring tools, the enlarge urself and cut new butterfly
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8th Oct 08 at 22:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they make a difference on large engines e.g. 2.8 straight 6 bmw engines not on small capacity 4 cylinder engines.
Steve X16XE
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8th Oct 08 at 23:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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