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jamie-lee
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do you reckon that there would be loads of difference

lastnight i raced a totally standard x16xe in my standard c16xe, the only difference being the x16xe had 17s and i pulled away and kept pulling away

onions
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Theres only 3bhp difference! There won't be a lot in it.
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Should have been dead even.
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The difference descibed should mainly occure due to the fact that the corsa with x16xe had 17's
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x16xe is newer better imo
Daimo B
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As said.

C16 gives more power throughout the rev range. 3bhp is just the peak power. C16 pulls much harder mid revs.

Add that difference, plus the fact he's on 17"s, you should comfortably pull away.
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c16xe pulls harder mid range

like tooo race it if it had 14s like mine
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quote:
Originally posted by Stavs
x16xe is newer better imo


not really
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quote:
Originally posted by jamie-lee
do you reckon that there would be loads of difference

lastnight i raced a totally standard x16xe in my standard c16xe, the only difference being the x16xe had 17s and i pulled away and kept pulling away

onions




[Edited on 25-05-2007 by nathy_87]
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quote:
Originally posted by nathy_87
quote:
Originally posted by jamie-lee
do you reckon that there would be loads of difference

lastnight i raced a totally standard x16xe in my standard c16xe, the only difference being the x16xe had 17s and i pulled away and kept pulling away

onions




[Edited on 25-05-2007 by nathy_87]


LMAO
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quote:
Originally posted by jamie-lee
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Instead of saying opinions, you said onions.
jamie-lee
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ok mate thats fine
Rob_Lee
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C16xe because it doesnt have all the shit that goes wrong

I.e EGR/SAI
gianluigi
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Originally posted by jamie-lee
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A/S/L?
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Lee
C16xe because it doesnt have all the shit that goes wrong

I.e EGR


What about if it has a power box on it though
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quote:
Originally posted by nathy_87
quote:
Originally posted by jamie-lee
do you reckon that there would be loads of difference

lastnight i raced a totally standard x16xe in my standard c16xe, the only difference being the x16xe had 17s and i pulled away and kept pulling away

onions




[Edited on 25-05-2007 by nathy_87]


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25th May 07 at 12:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

people trim your quotes lol.

a rebuild is c16xe or a well maintained one is better tbh
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Lee
C16xe because it doesnt have all the shit that goes wrong

I.e EGR


What about if it has a power box on it though


Still not seen an X16 make the same power as a C16 with power box.

Definatly not with a manztel.

Never seen 1 mantzel on an x16 make over 140bhp with minimal other mods. I've seen a fair few C16's make it into the 140's, some in the 150's with the same mods on as an X16.

This argument is like the Corsa Vs 106 argument.
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best of both worlds:

an x16xe with a c16xe head. great head design and doesnt drink oil or have slappy pistons
Daimo B
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Has anyone done that yet with some results.

Thats the only thing about the C16, early ones pistons were too small for the blocks Later ones had piston ring issues.

Even rebuilt ones seem to suffer the same problems. Still, rebuilt the mofo into a specced TB engine and no worries.

Donnas went blew up once due to the cam belt tensioners letting go. IT got rebuilt, then blew up again. That was a piston/block/ring issue.

[Edited on 25-05-2007 by VXR]
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fast arent they dave
Dave A
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what are?

and yes, the c16xe head on an x16xe/x16xel block is a tried and tested combination, I have done a few.
Daimo B
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What kinda differences did you notice?

Would be interesting seeing as the xel is the high torque low power version, compared to the high powered, high torque C16.

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