Paul_J
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Just got into a massive (lasted over 2 hours) debate about 'climate change' with my house mate, which basically resulted in him accusing me of being a really bad person for having no cat on my car! 
He did geography and now does a masters in environmental something or other... and he obviously feels strongly about it.
He basically had the opinion that taxing cars / drivers / etc was a good method of generating revenue to spend on solving the climate problem
At one point I thought we were gonna have a fight over it... Especially when he brought up my car polluting the world etc.
He's totally not a car person, infact he drives (when he has to) a 880cc Matiz.
He said why do I need a car in the state of tune as I have (I barely drive it at the mo anyway, so it's not polluting much) - I explained I used it for track days.
He said 'well you could drive a car like mine on track days' - I said 'no I couldn't, that would not be enjoyable' etc.
Basically ended up saying 'I do not NEED a car like mine' etc.
Fucking knackered now after arguing for so long. Anyone else come up against any 'ANTI CAR' people?
Paul
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LeeM
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Registered: 26th Sep 05
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to be fair u dont need a car like that, but its fun and we wont be around when the earth cooks so fuck it
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Hamish
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Registered: 4th Apr 05
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Tell him to GTF and carry on sticking rocks up his arse
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BarnshaW
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Registered: 25th Oct 06
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tell him ur selling it and buying a 8 litre chevrolet pickup and decatting that and then going in the garden to burn 3 tons of rubber tyres.
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Robin
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Registered: 7th Jan 04
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Explain to them that we'll all be dead by the time the world becomes uninhabitable, so why give a fuck now, when we don't have to deal with the effects?
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Paul_J
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I admitted I didn't 'need' a car like mine...
but he doesn't 'need' to watch tv, yet still does? etc
I barely drive my car at the moment, so he's polluting more with his matiz, as he has to drive to oxford twice a week.
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Nath
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Hippy fuck.
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Colin
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Climate change is a natural occurance on earth.....exhaust fumes contribute a tiny tiny marginal part of it.
Also the ozone layer is reparing itself
There ive made more sense in 2 minutes than your flatmate in 2 hrs
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BarnshaW
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Registered: 25th Oct 06
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tell him if HE cared that much then he wud not drive at all and he would ride a bike the hypocrite
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RCoughtrie
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 i love those kind of arguments, had one last night with my mate who thinks you can care for a new born kid on £20 a week.. lol
as you have noticed you never get anywhere... so just give in hes not gonna change opinion.. which imo is wank
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ed
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There are a lot of things people don't need, but still do.
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Jake
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ask him what percentage of car tax is invested in prevention of global warming.
then tell him to shut the fuck up
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Climate change is a natural occurance on earth.....exhaust fumes contribute a tiny tiny marginal part of it.
Also the ozone layer is reparing itself
There ive made more sense in 2 minutes than your flatmate in 2 hrs
This is what I was saying initially ... Where's your proof that it's my car's emissions causing it.
I also said why can't the temp go up and down naturally? like time of romans, vine street in london had vines growing there. So the climate was far hotter than it is now.
He just said 'yeh but that happened over long periods of time, not rising 1.5 degree's C in 10 years'.
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Jules S
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Registered: 24th Dec 03
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FLOL
Aren't the USA and China responsible for 95%+ of greenhouse/global warming/climate change gases?
One small car in the entire world is going to make a whole load of difference....
tell your mate to cull all cows and douse all the volcanos in the world and see what he says about that.
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and now does a masters in environmental something
Sums him up really
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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i agree that all this trying to make driving expensive scheme the govt keeps trying to claim is for environmental reasons is not the way to solve pollution problems etc.
and the money doesn't go towards solutions for helping the environment
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Robin
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Registered: 7th Jan 04
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
He just said 'yeh but that happened over long periods of time, not rising 1.5 degree's C in 10 years'.
He sounds like he doesn't like the summer.
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules S
FLOL
Aren't the USA and China responsible for 95%+ of greenhouse/global warming/climate change gases?
One small car in the entire world is going to make a whole load of difference....
tell your mate to cull all cows and douse all the volcanos in the world and see what he says about that.
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and now does a masters in environmental something
Sums him up really
His Argument to the fact China has most pollution, is the fact that WE shipped all our industry to china, so what do you expect? - The fact is, most of our stuff is made in china... so obviously they'll be pollution there instead of here.
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Paul_J
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Fucking hell it's nice to be on a forum with sane 'Car enthusiast' people.
NO ONE at uni - NO ONE likes cars.
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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tbh anyone that attends uni are cocks, especially girls
[Edited on 07-11-2007 by Steve]
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i hate girls
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Tom
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Fucking hippies 
getting a bit ott when he's forcing his opinion on you in that way.
Wants to focus on the bigger picture he aint going to help change anything by linking it to a car that you hardly use etc.
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Colin
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Most Uni Students are total planks with fucked up idea's.........tbh they need a few extra years before being allowed into the big wide world!
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James_DT
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I gave a girl from work a lift home once. She spent the entire way lecturing me about the evils of the motor car, and how she doesn't drive and never will etc. Cheeky mare, I was giving her a lift home; she can walk next time it's 10pm on a cold December night!
The world managed to go through an ice age and back again - I'll believe the hype when someone shows me proof that the Earth wouldn't have heated up on it's own and that it's not going to go down again at some point in the future.
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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arrogant, know it all cunts.
it really angers me the way uni girls speak
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by James_DT
I gave a girl from work a lift home once. She spent the entire way lecturing me about the evils of the motor car, and how she doesn't drive and never will etc. Cheeky mare, I was giving her a lift home; she can walk next time it's 10pm on a cold December night!
Should have punted her out tbh...think I would have!
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