lees_corsa
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good points and bad points of both if anybody can help.
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phil_sutton
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c20xe every time, why fit an inferior engine in the first place. People will bang on about how the 8v is stronger blah blah. Its not end of........... the same strength just it makes so little power it wont bother the bottom end at all.
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Vaux Lad
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I dont think the 2L 8v has any good points over the 16v TBH
[Edited on 03-02-2008 by Vaux Lad]
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Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
I dont think the 2L 8v has any good points over the 16v TBH
[Edited on 03-02-2008 by Vaux Lad]
only one, cheaper to repare if you blow it up, less valve's cam's etc etc 
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lees_corsa
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fort the 8v's have more torque, theres only 20bhp difference
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Vaux Lad
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No
The 16v has more torque than any 8v.
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sumner2k3
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i use to have a 2.0 8v in my car and never had a single problem with it and i drove it hard constantly for near half a year and soon as i put a 2.0 16v in the problems havnt stopped
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
No
The 16v has more torque than any 8v
Sure about that?
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Limecat
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quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
No
The 16v has more torque than any 8v
Sure about that?
To answer someone elses question.
Go and get a torque curve for a C20SEH and lay it on top of a C20XE one. Come back then. 
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adam.d
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Good point of an 8v, you can pick them up for £50 / £100, and a bit more room to work on in a corsa bay . Not a bad motor by any means but not as good as an XE.
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johnhara1
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quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
No
The 16v has more torque than any 8v
Sure about that?
Yes
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pow
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quote:
Originally posted by adam.d
Good point of an 8v, you can pick them up for £50 / £100, and a bit more room to work on in a corsa bay. Not a bad motor by any means but not as good as an XE.
Sums it up well!
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jambo166
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quote:
Originally posted by sumner2k3
i use to have a 2.0 8v in my car and never had a single problem with it and i drove it hard constantly for near half a year and soon as i put a 2.0 16v in the problems havnt stopped
me 2 i used 2 have a 8v in my car drove as hard as fook never had any bother went onto the 16v and wot a pile ov shite that was but its just personal preference realy most people only go 4 the valver coz it looks better
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Nick207
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I don't imagine there are many decent 20seh's still around. You have to be careful you actually get one and not a 115 bhp 20ne. Best to check engine codes before buying.
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dan_c4rsa
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quote:
Originally posted by sumner2k3
i use to have a 2.0 8v in my car and never had a single problem with it and i drove it hard constantly for near half a year and soon as i put a 2.0 16v in the problems havnt stopped
same here
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Vaux Lad
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quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
No
The 16v has more torque than any 8v
Sure about that?
Any standard 2L 8v then, happy? 
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STEvieXE
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a seh wont go for 50 quid, think sehs are becoming rarer and rarer these days
not really worth the hassle of conversion for the 115bhp model imo
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dan_c4rsa
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the old seh i got cost me 250!
bought an NE and SE for 175 each
all were below 70k though
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Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
No
The 16v has more torque than any 8v
Sure about that?
Yes
Yes he is correct. 8v's feel like they have more low end torque, but that is because they don't have the high rev torque to compare!
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phil_sutton
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If your fitting an bigger engine to make a car faster your not exactly going to be racing at tick over are you? If you want low end torque get a diesel if you want power then stay away from a 8v.
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dan-sport
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i like the xe yes its fast but theirs a price to pay for that, buying new parts every month because somethink else has gone wrong, where as the seh might be slower then the xe but u will enjoy it more because your able to drive it more, since it won't be getting repaired all the time lol
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dan-sport
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this is from a different post to prove my point " Shaun is downgrading from a 16v to an 8v, the 16v keep on blowing up" - from related threads
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scotts v6
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how cum the redtop lasts so well in the cars it cums in like cav cally astra ect but soon as u put it in a corsa all hell brakes out a dont get it answers on a post card ????????
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phil_sutton
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The people that moan about the 16v blowing up all are the time usually spend 12 hours a day smashing it off the limiter. They only blow up all the time if they are built by a monkey and are driven around at 5600000000rpm with no oil, an ive seen this happen hundreds of times.
[Edited on 06-02-2008 by phil_sutton]
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Vaux Lad
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Exactly/\
The c20xe is NOT an unreliable engine.
If people have unreliable ones, then its down to it just being a tired engine etc.
Plus things like engine looms will start degrading over time(and seeing as the youngest xe is about 15years old now) you can expect problems.
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