Ben G
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i know this has been covered before but i want answers to some other questions if anyone can give a definite answer?
so far i've:
washed - with meguiars gold class shampoo using sonus wash mitt and 2 bucket method
hosed down but not dried
clayed - with chemical guys quick detailer
quickly washed again with meguairs (5 minutes to get quick detailer off)
dried - with a microfibre towel
polished - using autoglym SRP
tomorrow i'm going to add a sealant and wax.
the only ones i have at the moment are autoglym extra gloss protection which worked well the last time i tried it and meguiars stage 3 carnauba wax - takes a lot of effort and time to get a good result.
which do i do first? sealant then wax? or visa versa?
also, how long do people recommend to keep the polish/sealant/wax on for to achieve a nice deep shine?
i usually leave polish on for about 30 mins, sealant for an hour (says on the bottle) and wax for 30 mins? should i decrease or increase any of these times?
lastly, if anyone has any specific recommendations for a GOOD wax for a white car, please let me know (anything other than dodo juice) 
thanks for any help, appreciate it 
and here's how the car looks so far  not bad for a half arsed job i think 
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martin945
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that looks lovely and clean
not sure on times of leaving polish/wax on etc i usually leave about 15min or so. don't usually time it.
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Rob R
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on white i'd recomend a good couple of layers of jetseal 109
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sport16v
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wax, depends really. Most are on and off, such as poorboys nattys blue. Sealant before wax as it seals in the shine before the protection stage. Only decent wax I have had is nattys blue so I'm guessing regular nattys will be decent. I have seen good results from the blackfire sealant and wax on detailing world and seeing as most sealants dont like wax over the top of them (don't take to the wax) then you could get them to as they're designed to work together
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Benn
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Sealent, then wax over the top.
You find i'm guessing stage 3 hard to get off? how long are youleaving it on for?
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John
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I normally go round the car with polish/wax and when i'm finished putting it on go back to where i started and take it back off.
This time, through mostly being lazy I left the wax on for a good couple of hours.
Don't know if that had any benefit or not but it certainly didn't do any harm
I also used only meguiars stuff that I had in my garage, results looked goofd to me.
[Edited on 01-03-2008 by John]
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Scotty C
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I want a fiesta ST 
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Nick-S
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how long till its dirtty again 
good job tho
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mattk
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Exactly Nick, I wash mine every week, I then look at it and think, Im gonna get it looking MINT at the weekend,
Then a minuite later think, ahh fuck it, it will piss it down tomorra anyway
[Edited on 01-03-2008 by mattk]
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Nick-S
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i polish and wax mine say 1s every 6 months n just wash it every weeks and it comes up just the same, bit of a waste of time realy 
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mattk
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when I go mad though, I go mad,
the other week I spent 5 hours doing it, a week later you couldnt tell
a wash a week is good enough for me
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Nick-S
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Martin_C
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as its been said, sealant then the wax. you're doing the sealant ok. but the wax, i tend to buff off as you can see it just starting to dry out. if you're struggling with removing it, try p21s its really easy to get off.
also the polish, i wouldnt say you need to leave it on for 30mins, i'd work it hard when its wet, then wipe off the excess straight away, as a polish is an abrasive cutting compound so leaving it on doesnt do anything, but working it on the paint does.
[Edited on 01-03-2008 by Martin_C]
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Benn
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quote:
Originally posted by John
I normally go round the car with polish/wax and when i'm finished putting it on go back to where i started and take it back off.
This time, through mostly being lazy I left the wax on for a good couple of hours.
Don't know if that had any benefit or not but it certainly didn't do any harm
I also used only meguiars stuff that I had in my garage, results looked goofd to me.
[Edited on 01-03-2008 by John]
Your really only ment to wait tillthe wax is starting to haze,
I do it, do two pannels then remove... comes off easy as.
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Martin_C
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haze was the word i was looking for but couldnt think
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Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
a wash a year is good enough for me
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Ben G
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yes it gets dirty after about 10 miles 
and yeah i find the meg stage 3 wax quite difficult to buff off if left for any amount of time.
i've been looking at collinite 476s, p21s or poorboys nattys (white) but can't decide which one would be best.
i spend far too much on cleaning products 
monster - i do too  but when i get the focus st it will definitely be in orange, had enough of white getting dirty
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Graham88
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Drive it FFS.
Wish I could be bothered to put that much effort into cleaning a car.
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Fad
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As for a decent wax I'd recomend Collenite, I did the clio when i first got it and after every wash it comes up gleaming now, quite durable and gives a great shine.
I tend to use Chemical guys WMF for a glazing product.
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Edd
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poorboys, great results and easy to get off
polishing and waxing should be done a panel at a time
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Mark Prydderch
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When should you polish? Before or after wax.
Don't know what order to do everything.
Do I...
- wash?
- Polish?
- Wash?
- Wax?
Also, whats the "two bucket method"? Bit clueless sorry.
[Edited on 02-03-2008 by Mark Prydderch]
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Fad
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Wash
Clay
polish
wax
jobs a good un!
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jr
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i used to be like this
then ive found cars look better dirty
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Fad
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oposed to cars that see the light of day?
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jr
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yeah that one will be clean
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