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16V_1600

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26th Mar 08 at 21:53

Right time to bring the lid off the can of worms, now obviously the X16XE is approx 40 kg lighter than the C20XE so undoubtedly will be better for B road handling etc, but on straight road acceleration, is there a great deal of difference between a tuned X16 and a stock C20?

Which is more reliable for tuning? I'd love a C20XE, but have reservations as my X16 is a year 2000 engine, where as the C20 is from like 1990+ so guess more unreliable than mine.

Views/comments/opinions welcome

Whittie

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26th Mar 08 at 21:54

Owned both.

Xe EVERYtime hands down.

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26th Mar 08 at 22:00

keep the 1.6, inlet, cams, manifold etc

coming from someone building a xe

JM_16v

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26th Mar 08 at 22:00

get a xe and rebuild it an no reason it wont bes as reliable

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26th Mar 08 at 22:01

you have a B with a x16, leave it in there

SAL

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26th Mar 08 at 22:05

XE over 1600

16V_1600

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26th Mar 08 at 22:32

Mixed views there

Tempted to tune the 1.6 as it seems quick enough at the moment, but fancy the XE. It's like the devil and the angel arguing on my shoulders

16V_1600

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26th Mar 08 at 22:33

quote:
Originally posted by jr
keep the 1.6, inlet, cams, manifold etc

coming from someone building a xe

Jr, U2'd in a sec

SAL

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26th Mar 08 at 22:35

i have a 1.8, tunning it will cost the price of fitting a same millage z20let

and the 1.8 will still have less power

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26th Mar 08 at 22:37

not all about power

i would still have a 1600 over an xe, if i hasnt bought what i allready have

jimmy 2.1

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26th Mar 08 at 22:39

Xe's are reliable enough if the preparation has gone into the conversion. (rebuild etc)

I've had mine 3.5 years now and (touch wood) hasn't let me down once! Regular services and its spot on

cunningham

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Registered: 25th May 05
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26th Mar 08 at 22:40

xe mainly as it will be cheaper to build and uses less fuel beliee it or not

Ian W

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26th Mar 08 at 22:42

C20XE all day.

I was doing over 350 miles a week in mine, was no difference in reliability than my 1600 only it used less oil and less petrol !

I found it made the car much more fun

Tommy L

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26th Mar 08 at 22:42

get a LET

Warren G

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26th Mar 08 at 22:42

quote:
Originally posted by jr
keep the 1.6, inlet, cams, manifold etc

coming from someone building a xe

quote of the year

i would have a 1.6 over a redtop any day

but im fitting a redtop

Warren G

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26th Mar 08 at 22:43

quote:
Originally posted by corsa_tomtom
get a LET

get a LER

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26th Mar 08 at 22:44

quote:
Originally posted by warren.g

quote:
Originally posted by jr
keep the 1.6, inlet, cams, manifold etc

coming from someone building a xe

quote of the year

i would have a 1.6 over a redtop any day

but im fitting a redtop

im not joking warren

Ian W

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26th Mar 08 at 22:46

quote:
Originally posted by jr

quote:
Originally posted by warren.g

quote:
Originally posted by jr
keep the 1.6, inlet, cams, manifold etc

coming from someone building a xe

quote of the year

i would have a 1.6 over a redtop any day

but im fitting a redtop

im not joking warren

Legitimate question...

If you think the 1600 has so many benefits over the XE then why don't you sell all the 20XE bits and build a 1600?

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26th Mar 08 at 22:49

for what i want, its a better choice, it wont be for 99% of people

also, when its done, i have access to a budget version of my car, with a 1600 in, best of both worlds

deano87

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26th Mar 08 at 22:49

1.6

Jas

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26th Mar 08 at 22:50

if the 16xe is in there dont touch it!

power to weight...

put car on a diet...

inlet, cams etc and you'll have a quick little 1600 I did it to mine and love every second of it

sand-eel

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26th Mar 08 at 22:51

if the engine is 40kgs more try and get the weight down to what the 1.6 16v would weigh, put battery in the boot and rip out the aircon and get fibre glass wings etc

Tommy L

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26th Mar 08 at 22:55

tb's

Mike

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26th Mar 08 at 22:59

quote:
Originally posted by 16V_1600
Mixed views there

Search x16xe vs. c20xe, that many different views your head may actually explode

I remember spending about 5 hours one night reading through, was originally thinking tune an x16, then I don't know how many things I read that made me change my mind, just kept thinking, ahh never thought of that 2ltr it is, next thread, ooh good point 1.6

Everyone's got an opinion on it but the opinions vary so much, you've just gotta weigh up your situation, read through a few of the vs. threads, go through the pros and cons of each and decide what's best for you

I've decided on a c20, although if I already had an x16, I don't know what I'd go for, I'd probably still be trying to decide in 12 months time

JM_16v

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26th Mar 08 at 23:03

go out in a c20xe and then decide, c20xe is cheaper in long run to power

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