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FruitBooTeR

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Registered: 18th Jan 07
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26th Jan 09 at 21:00

Supercharge a c20xe/let

Just been reading up on them a bit cuz I like to learn about things etc

and was wondering why they arnt all that common.

I know there belt driven off the crank and exhaust manifold would be different so its not like you can just swap a turbo in a let to a supercharger but im sure it wouldnt be too difficult to do this conversion especially on an n/a engine liek the c20xe?

Benfits -

.No lag

.No cooling period is required because they are not lubricated by engine oil you can just turn them off straight away after a good blast.

.The whine

.Can sometimes add up to 50% more power

.Quite simple to do...just bolt to the top of the engine (conventional Roots-style) or mounted off to the side (vortec) (Duno how simple though :lol

.Cost less to service and maintain

Not sure on initial cost etc so mabi thats why it doesnt get done?

Vids -

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F1f6kbzfMHs

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=w1KTa47QlIA

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hce787D8WcM&feature=related

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 09 at 21:01

you had already posted links. i should have noticed. sorry.

[Edited on 26-01-2009 by Nic Barnes]

FruitBooTeR

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26th Jan 09 at 21:04

I know there are some about just wondered why they arnt as common

Kurt

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26th Jan 09 at 21:05

supercharged 1.8 C

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IQy6UpBqHqg

I never understood the facination of supercharger whine either.. just sounds like a dodgy gearbox

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 09 at 21:06

make less torque with a supercharger. thats why theyre very common on jap engines..........?

flybikeslee

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26th Jan 09 at 21:08

they sound the tits

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 09 at 21:10

id rather have a blower and some torque tbh than a whine. personal preference perhaps.

Robin

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26th Jan 09 at 21:12

It's not worth the effort for the gains when there's an alternative which already works.

Robin

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26th Jan 09 at 21:15

quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
.No cooling period is required because they are not lubricated by engine oil you can just turn them off straight away after a good blast.

.Cost less to service and maintain

This two points seem odd to me too, you'd still want to let the charger cool down, and I don't see how it would be any cheaper to maintain than an LET would, it's still a stressed engine.

D-A-V-E-

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26th Jan 09 at 21:19

This may make me look like a total prat but...did that 1.8C look like an 8v block? i thought the top of it did anyway..

mattk

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26th Jan 09 at 21:21

thats the charger, they go on top

Kurt

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26th Jan 09 at 21:22

Nope its a chevrolet 8v

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MrBkbQuo4N8&feature=related

[Edited on 26-01-2009 by Kurt]

Ste L

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26th Jan 09 at 21:22

quote:
Originally posted by Kurt
I never understood the facination of supercharger whine either.. just sounds like a dodgy gearbox

a sccr gearbox whine's like a fucker, but it's such a lovely noise,

mattk

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26th Jan 09 at 21:23

quote:
Originally posted by Kurt
Nope its a chevrolet 8v

ghey

Matt H

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26th Jan 09 at 21:23

Alternator is in the way IIRC, it's a bitch to move

Ste L

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26th Jan 09 at 21:26

quote:
Originally posted by Matt H
Alternator is in the way IIRC, it's a bitch to move

not really..

one mount needed

N3CRO

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26th Jan 09 at 21:53

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hr3-PgOovA

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 09 at 21:54

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L

quote:
Originally posted by Matt H
Alternator is in the way IIRC, it's a bitch to move

not really..

one mount needed

was it chris tunnicliffe that did that for his alt in his nova years and years and years ago?

Rich H

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26th Jan 09 at 21:59

quote:
Originally posted by TheNobleOne
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hr3-PgOovA

That just looks and sounds like somebody pressed fast forward on the video

Ste L

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26th Jan 09 at 21:59

yea..

great for a nova, mean no chassis legs mod's

N3CRO

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26th Jan 09 at 22:00

quote:
Originally posted by Rich H

quote:
Originally posted by TheNobleOne
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hr3-PgOovA

That just looks and sounds like somebody pressed fast forward on the video

Why would you wanna s/c a 1.0 12v anyways!?

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 09 at 22:01

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
yea..

great for a nova, mean no chassis legs mod's

nowt wrong with a big sledge hammer tbh..............

Ste L

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26th Jan 09 at 22:06

lol, did that trick on my green nova

Mike

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27th Jan 09 at 00:58

That third video sounds like a squeaky toy when he boots it. I've heard some superchargers that sounded alright but they all sounded stupid

Think I'll stick to my throttle bodies plan

Jamxe

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27th Jan 09 at 01:01

Supercharged cars are the business, not many around and different to the usual dump valve sound too... Power is very underated by people... The smooth delivery leaves turbo lag for dead.. My brother has a AE92 GTI corolla which Fensport/TTE did a full supercharged conversion on (4age engine taken out 4agZe engine put in amoung other stuff

) Ended up with a 1.6 engine with 204.8BHP (Flywheel) at 10 psi boost.. Car would eat his mates 300BHP Imprezza thru the gears.. Sounds awsome too, not as whiney as the ones in the clips above, reckon its because the one on the 4agze engine only "blows" or spins up above certain revs so isn't always fully in use... For me, It's supercharged, Throttle Bodies and then Turbos.. Each to there own, isn't that what they say

Heres a clip of a RWD Corolla with lots of carbon fibre

from Northern Ireland Same engine but geared different

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TSLrZLh7xxE&feature=related

[Edited on 27-01-2009 by Jamxe]

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