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Ellis
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2nd Jun 09 at 08:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Heyo, right folks - engine is running a bit rich I think, and sometimes has a slight misfire under load...

I'm thinking a sensor? Which one - CTS?

Help me out
DAZ1985
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2nd Jun 09 at 08:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

CTS can cause over fuelling if its sending the wrong signals
But its not the only sensor that can effect the fueling
Ellis
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2nd Jun 09 at 08:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What else would you say could be at fault here?
DAZ1985
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Lambda
AFM

???
Terry12
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2nd Jun 09 at 09:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The CTS on mine was making mine misfire because it ran so rich.
A set of new plugs were black after 30 miles. Swapped the CTS and all is fine.

It's worth replacing it anyway as they're only cheap.
B3KAN
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2nd Jun 09 at 09:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Does your EM light come on ellis? as it could be a number off things
Ellis
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There's a high chance it could be on I guess, makes things difficult seeing if it is on when there isn't a bulb


quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
The CTS on mine was making mine misfire because it ran so rich.
A set of new plugs were black after 30 miles. Swapped the CTS and all is fine.

It's worth replacing it anyway as they're only cheap.

Yeah I think I'll do that today - that is pretty much what is happening to me!

Thanks guys
B3KAN
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2nd Jun 09 at 09:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fit a bulb then and do a paperclip test
Ellis
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Oh can you still do that with the XE in?

Ace, didn't know that
B3KAN
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quote:
Originally posted by Ellis
Oh can you still do that with the XE in?

Ace, didn't know that


Aslong as your wiring was done right and the EM wired in then yea it will read the codes, easyer to do a check first rather than just starting to replace things
Terry12
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Mine never put the ECU light on but misfired like a dog and overfuelled.
Ellis
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Just bought a new CTS just now, will fit it once it's cooled down a smidge
Terry12
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From Vauxhall? How much you pay fella?
Tip for you, Have the new CTS ready to fit as when you remove the old one your collant will run out. I try to do it as fast as possible.
Ellis
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Think it was around £12 from Vaux...

Cheers for the tip, better wait for the water to cool down though
Terry12
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2nd Jun 09 at 10:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm stupid I do it hot, Did the same removing an exhaust manifold. Still got the burn mark on my wrist
B3KAN
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quote:
Originally posted by Ellis
Think it was around £12 from Vaux...

Cheers for the tip, better wait for the water to cool down though


mine was only a few quid from vaux
Ellis
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2nd Jun 09 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Really? So I was ripped then

B3KAN
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Or did you buy the 2 off them?
Ellis
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Just the larger one, what does the smaller one do - any idea?
B3KAN
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quote:
Originally posted by Ellis
Just the larger one, what does the smaller one do - any idea?



The small ones for the temp guage


Awell looks like you did get ripped off then
Ellis
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Checked the receipt, it was just over £8 - don't know where I got £12 from
Terry12
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Did you fit it then fella?
Ellis
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Yeah, runs much better now

Still a slight misfire under load, but that I think is due to the intake pipework being a bodge and the exhaust isn't sealed properly yet - fingers crossed that'll be it sorted after that
Terry12
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Any improvement is worth £8 imo
Ellis
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Exactly, that was what I though - the smell of fuel has gone so I'm guessing the ECU was just running the car on a cold map cause the resistance of the CTS was high at all temperatures

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