tom-gardiner
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Registered: 10th Jul 09
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looking at this.....
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1181837.htm
any good? anyone had one before?
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Gareth F
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Registered: 16th Jan 08
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absolute weapons if tuned, very hard to find a decent one that hasnt been thrashed. Check on some sites for things to look out for.
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Baskey
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Registered: 31st May 06
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Fucking awsome cars. Watch the rear archs as they will rust and also the condition of the speedlines. The engines are all but the same as the 2.0 meganes so engine parts wont be a problem
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DizzyRebel
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Registered: 2nd Jan 09
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Not worth the price they commend. Get a 1.8 16v instead, theres very little difference and you save 2k in the process.
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johnhara1
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Registered: 19th Oct 06
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/\ agreed. TBH i seem more Williams on the road than the 1.8 RSi
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John
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You can get a 172 for that.
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Baskey
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quote:
Originally posted by John
You can get a 172 for that.
But a 172 is no quicker, no better at handeling and have not just started to go up in value
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Ojc
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Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
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I would say the Williams is faster than a 172.
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John
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Registered: 30th Jun 03
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I know, 172's are also crap, you won't be spending 3k on a 14 year old car though.
The 172's are falling apart so I can't even imagine how bad a williams would be.
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Reedy
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quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
/\ agreed. TBH i seem more Williams on the road than the 1.8 RSi
the 1.8 Rsi is crap and also was a 1.8 8v engine with a pants gearbox.
The 1.8 16v is practically the same engine as the 2.0 16v from the willy ( F7R engine ).
You can actually swap the bottom ends in these blocks.
For the difference in price, i would strongly recommend getting yourself a valver ( 1.8 16V ) just due to the fact that there isnt a large amount of difference apart from price.
Plus you can source the williams parts and put them onto the valver and get similar performance from it.
[Edited on 27-08-2009 by Reedy]
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Colin
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Clio willie is only 150bhp......
Think i'd rather a 172, it would probably have less problems, everyone I know thats had a mk1 clio has had plenty grief.
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Reedy
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Clio willie is only 150bhp......
Think i'd rather a 172, it would probably have less problems, everyone I know thats had a mk1 clio has had plenty grief.
usually when you get to the 100k mark you start to get problems ( unless it been looked after throughout its life ).
The 172's have quite alot of problems, if I was gonna get a 172 it would have to be the pase 2( i think ) clio with the trianglely lights if you get what i mean. I dont really like the look of the bug eye clios.
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steven_r2008
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Registered: 23rd May 08
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if you want a clio so much... get a little 1.2 or something like that and drop a redtop in it at least then you're not relying on the french to throw you back in your seat 
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Richardhhha
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Registered: 29th Sep 07
Location: Croydon, Greater London
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head gasket will pop garantee lol and they aren't nice to do ether
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Ojc
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Speak to Half Pint on here, he is the only person I would listen to IMO.
He had a 16v for a while and was always fixing things on it.
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DizzyRebel
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Registered: 2nd Jan 09
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My mates are renault nuts, ones had about 5 clio 1.8 16v's, ones had 2 and another had a clio 16v then a williams.
The williams she had was no faster than a 1.8 16v and for the extra £2000 it commended it wasnt worth it. She later got rid of it for a 106 gti which was a much better car.
The 1.8 16v's are a good car for the money but build quality and reliability leave something for desire, the interior is terrible - as is the driving position.
For the price bracket, id much rather a corsa XE, 106 gti, saxo vtr, r5 turbo or 205 gti with an mi16.
3k buys you a ph2 172, which would be a better option but still a pants car.
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Baskey
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Its not just a clio valver with a larger motor. The whole front end is different with a wider track. Its things like this that not many people realise which make it such a great drivers car.
You cant get away from the fact the interior is shit though
[Edited on 27-08-2009 by Baskey]
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TurboChris
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Registered: 31st May 02
Location: L'pool,drives ESCORT COSSIE,EVO 9 GT, BMW 525D MSP
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Clio Williams is the worst car i've ever owned, it broke and broke and broke some more!! and it was a low mileage fsh car. Utter crap imo
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Fad
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Registered: 1st Feb 01
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Speak to Half Pint on here, he is the only person I would listen to IMO.
He had a 16v for a while and was always fixing things on it.
Tony (Halfpint) popped the circlip off the diff a couple of times but then again his car was driven within every inch of its life.
Nothing other than that iirc went wrong with it, he took the engine out to do the belts and that in its self was an easy job as everything was plug and play.
Tony was the sole reason I went to the French side, he let me have a go in it then showed me what it was capable of.
Like any car out there you have your monday cars and your friday cars. My Uncle has an E55 AMG and that is always going wrong....doesnt mean its a crap car....just his one is 
As long as its maintained then its going to treat you well, John clearly you didnt like your Clio which is fair enough but whats the point being a misserble old git about it?
My advice to anyone is drive one and decide for yourself they can be Marmite but I love my 182 and today it just ticked over 60k miles which means in the last 18 months its covered 45k without any issues always started on the button and not even one rattle  Its also seen track action and still hasnt let me down.
For those who dont see the appeal to driving a 13 year old Williams thats fair enough but the fact is its a depreciation free car that is sought after....surely there is a reason behind this? If driving dynamics and fun factor is on your agenda I would recommend one to anyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxLVbIX78UA
[Edited on 27-08-2009 by Fad]
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Reedy
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fad - finally somebody else who likes renaults like me on this forum 
I suppose at the end of the day, it goes on what you like in a car. I find that driving position is fine, in actual fact i think its perfect. Some people obviously dont get on with the way its setup whereas some people do.
personally, test drive one and see what you think about it. Bearing in mind its going to be a fairly old car and in its time it would have been driven hard atleast once.
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SVM 286
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I'd go for one if I had the dough and the room to store it, but i'd go for a 1, not a 2, as they weigh a little less and are in my opinion a nicer shade of blue, plus the origin of the species has a certain ammount of cool about it.
I'd buy the best, obsessive one owner, pampered, heated garaged, prize winning, three figure mileage car that I could get my hands on. As they do command so much more cash than a 1.8, why not spend a bit more and be happy.
They are basically a really nice 16 Valve MK I with some of the right bits and another 200cc.
A production car that small and light, rolling out of the factory with a two litre engine stuffed under the bonnet as standard was quite something at the time and that's why i've fancied one for so long. I've just never enjoyed the price tag.
That's the problem with any level of exclusivity and association with motorsport I suppose.
Charming little cars though nonetheless.
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Cole
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lift off oversteer is all i will say about that
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grez12
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had a few french cars now meganes,clios,205`s all of which spent more time in the garage and me on me pushbike at the cash machine wouldnt recommend one to anyone,dont get me wrong when the run good they have been the best cars ive had loved them but just 2unreliable
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CORSA NUT
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I remember when i first got my old 106 GTI and had a rolling race with one from about 20 to 100 and it was dead level all the way.So not slow by any means.I think they look nice too apart from the dodgy interior 
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sand-eel
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A guy at my work used to have a 1.8 16v one and was constantly repairing things.
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