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djmattyh

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Registered: 20th May 08
Location: Shropshire Drives: 1.6 corsa sport
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30th Sep 09 at 13:48

which is better a corsa 1.6 sport tuned up to 150bhp or a standard redtop also 150bhp. just wandering as id say the 1.6 was a lot lighter. advice please people

MarkSport

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30th Sep 09 at 13:51

I'd say redtop still due to torque but thats a guess

FruitBooTeR

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Registered: 18th Jan 07
Location: Wolverhampton Drives: S15
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30th Sep 09 at 13:52

Better at what?

1/4 Drag

Track racing

Hill climbing

Baking a cake

Eck

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30th Sep 09 at 13:52

It's not THAT much lighter, and unless you have a raised limiter, you'll be changer gears more often in the Sport up to silly speeds, and less torque, so would be pretty even til 100+ I reckon.

Jamie_Hastings1

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30th Sep 09 at 13:59

When my mate done his xe corsa he thought the engines were roughly the same weight. So same weight car same bhp but the xe has more torque and a better box. But it depends on what type of race.

johnhara1

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30th Sep 09 at 14:16

XE + F20 = approx 180kg

Thats fully dressed with Oil in etc.

Read that on Mig ages ago.

sand-eel

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30th Sep 09 at 14:20

I heard a c20xe is 30kgs more than a 1.6?
Not that much really, especially when people put daft high poundage front springs on.

Nic Barnes

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30th Sep 09 at 20:10

xe all day long. unless you race in a class, i cant see the point of wasting cash on the 1600. people say its to be different which makes me laugh as thats a rediculous comment to make.

P1CK4D

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30th Sep 09 at 20:14

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
xe all day long. unless you race in a class, i cant see the point of wasting cash on the 1600. people say its to be different which makes me laugh as thats a rediculous comment to make.

100% Agreed.

gez bay

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Registered: 14th Feb 08
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30th Sep 09 at 20:18

20XE. for £400 you can pick up a tidy engine, dump it in and have 150bhp with no fiddling. apart from putting it in.
if you want 150bhp from a 1.6 you will be pulling apart the engine to fit cams, arp's ect, and you will have to buy gaskets. oil, head bolts and so on, then onto the tunning, mapping. not worth it. a good cam kit alone will cost more than a xe.

[Edited on 30-09-2009 by gez bay]

flybikeslee

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30th Sep 09 at 20:33

both poo

Nic Barnes

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30th Sep 09 at 20:34

anything vauxhall is poo tbh.

flybikeslee

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30th Sep 09 at 20:36

true story

gez bay

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30th Sep 09 at 20:41

Warren G

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30th Sep 09 at 20:43

id like to drive a redtop corsa,

been in a few, some impressed, so not....

but redtop all id say

gez bay

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30th Sep 09 at 20:45

yeah i'd like to drive one, been in my mates. was good but had 300,000 miles on it. no joke. and i think it was a little tired.

[Edited on 30-09-2009 by gez bay]

djmattyh

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Registered: 20th May 08
Location: Shropshire Drives: 1.6 corsa sport
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30th Sep 09 at 23:24

think il go for the redtop then. ta

djmattyh

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30th Sep 09 at 23:39

i was told that with a strait through exhaust & different inlet manifold will get the 1.6 up to about 140 bhp

Eck

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1st Oct 09 at 01:04

You were lied to. It will be nowhere near that.

djmattyh

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1st Oct 09 at 11:47

it was in total vauxhall magazine

lostboy

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1st Oct 09 at 13:43

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
xe all day long. unless you race in a class, i cant see the point of wasting cash on the 1600. people say its to be different which makes me laugh as thats a rediculous comment to make.

You would hate my project then

but in reality I couldn't afford to insure a 2 litre but I can afford to insure a 1.6 all mods declared

As for the thread question, I have seen a few people ask this question and I initially wanted my 1.6 to keep up with C20XE's but in reality, it probably wont (mines not finished yet although I will find out when its done).

My point is, you can have as much BHP as you want, but if you aint got the right gearbox, then your hundreds of BHP aint shit.

Corsa_Quadz

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1st Oct 09 at 13:44

At the end of the day its your choice bud, im in the process of buying some tuning bits for my c16xe had a redtop before and tbh i thought it was a mare. Each to there own

DannyB

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1st Oct 09 at 13:50

quote:
Originally posted by djmattyh
it was in total vauxhall magazine

Oh well it must be true then

lostboy

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1st Oct 09 at 13:56

You can get circa 130 bhp from an inlet and a good exhaust system, corsa inlet is very restrictive, air go's round all sorts of bends before it gets where it needs to be, so a non-restrictive inlet does work a charm.

philip2

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1st Oct 09 at 13:57

inlet, decent ex manifold/system, chip/remap to raise rev limit, decent airbox?feed, arp rod bolts a must too as need to rev to 7.5k otherwise chances of rod letting go is good. think maybe headwork too and poss couple of other bits(sticking on stock gsi cams though)

there was an article from SBD but i cant seem to find it about tuning the 1.6 16v's to get it back to what lotus had developed them too

[Edited on 01-10-2009 by philip2]

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