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joes_1.4_16v_sport
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22nd Nov 09 at 20:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A criminal record?

Got done for GBH about 8 months back and want a carreer change as my work bore's me.



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I don't think there is a defining yes or no to a criminal record. Depends entirely on the circumstances. Would probably have to go in and find oot!
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Why not wait until tomorrow and give their recruiment office a call to find out?
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section 18 proberly a no.

apart from that it proberly depends how long ago it was.
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Im busy and wondered if anybody knew but thanks and feel free not to post if your gonna be a dick about it.
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ste w will know more about this, he was in the RAF wasnt he?
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quote:
Originally posted by Rickavo
section 18 proberly a no.

apart from that it proberly depends how long ago it was.


Shit.

Ok cheers for that...
P1CK4D
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quote:
Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
Im busy and wondered if anybody knew but thanks and feel free not to post if your gonna be a dick about it.


I wasnt actually being a dick. People on here can tell you what they think but IMO if you explain to them the situation I would imagine they are going to give you the best possible advice.

Jeeezzz.
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quote:
Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
Im busy and wondered if anybody knew


Too busy to use google?


Criminal Record
Having a criminal record does not necessarily prevent you from joining the UK Military. When joining you must provide details of any civil convictions you have which are considered to be ‘unspent’ under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974. Whilst you are entitled to withhold details about ‘spent’ convictions for most roles, you will need to declare them if you are applying for the Army Medical Services, an administrator with the Adjutant General’s Corps or other designated sensitive employments. For example, having a criminal record could disbar you from working with children, vulnerable adults or sensitive information.

The Armed Forces ask you to be honest about your past as any undisclosed convictions may make you liable to prosecution and past convictions may not bar you from joining.


I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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quote:
Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
quote:
Originally posted by Rickavo
section 18 proberly a no.

apart from that it proberly depends how long ago it was.


Shit.

Ok cheers for that...


Thats my point. He said its probably a no and you've just taken it as your answer. I doubt he knows fully. Give them a call, it's in your best interest if its what you want to get into.
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http://www.hmforces.co.uk/training/articles/12-am-i-eligible-to-join-the-british-navy-or-military


I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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What did you get for the GBH? Quite a serious assault charge.
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quote:
Originally posted by gtitim
What did you get for the GBH? Quite a serious assault charge.

especially a section 18, they are usually stabbings arent they?
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he didnt say it was a section 18
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quote:
Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
quote:
Originally posted by Rickavo
section 18 proberly a no.

apart from that it proberly depends how long ago it was.


Shit.

Ok cheers for that...


That would suggest it was.
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wel even if it isnt a section 18 its stil grievous bodily harm i.e more than just a black eye
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Could have been a section 20 to be fair, section 18 is one down from attempted murder! (wounding with intent)
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More than liukely not, The raf wouldnt let me in and all i had was a driving ban and told me i had to wait for 5 years before i have a clean criminal record.

the army will accept any asbo though...
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Under CRB checks, full disclosure would show GBH.

Section 20/18 is not applicable.
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Surely gbh is a good thing if you're intending to kick the shit out of a few iraqi's?!
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whats the difference between abh and gbh?
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abh is a lesser charge when you've wounded someone with a little slap, typical saturday night pub brawel sort of thing, gbh is where you've properly given someone a good hiding
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Three levels;

Assault - Simply verbal - you can be locked up if proven you have told someone to "do one" for want of a better expression, and someone complains.

ABH - Actual Bodily harm, which would includes broken skin stained during an assault.

GBH - Broken bones, broken teeth, sustained during an assualt.

Then higher up GBH with intent, for instance leaving your home address with a knife and using it during an assault.

It is more complex, but that is the gist of it.

All falls under the Offences agaist the person act of 1861.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob R
abh is a lesser charge when you've wounded someone with a little slap, typical saturday night pub brawel sort of thing, gbh is where you've properly given someone a good hiding


How do they define between the two? as I was getting charged for GBH but had it dropped to ABH and walked away with a final warning.

Edit: too late, thanks teddy.



[Edited on 24-11-2009 by harrisp]
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ABH and you were given a final warning - Lucky boy.

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