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MarkSport
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when i see drum covers like this....Its awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32QjS0noXv8
Matt L
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seconded, almost got one at xmas but decided against it as it would only be a used occasionally.
Dom
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it's pretty good, but being nit picky he needs to tune his snare. Also he isn't that tight, it's quite noticeable in his Livin' On a Prayer video - *shameless plug, >Here's< my rendition for a uni project about 3/4 years ago (please excuse the piss poor vocalist).

Mark - have you managed to have a go on any of the leccy kits that are about? I know you seemed interested in the Roland series in the last thread....
Skylined
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3rd Jan 10 at 12:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

related vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyyUFDfv34Q&feature=related

Laney
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I thought the guy was pretty much in the pocket and more importantly he was well relaxed.

Good technique too
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Laney
I thought the guy was pretty much in the pocket and more importantly he was well relaxed.

Good technique too


either the recording is out (not impossible, especially if it's taken from vinyl/tape in which case it'll drifting back and forth slightly) or he's out (hits on the snare and kick), although it's more noticeable on his other videos.
Saying that though, it's pretty difficult to keep track of timing listening to music, a click track is obviously easier (ish - i know plenty of drummers that are tight playing in a band but are all over the show when they have to play to a click).

Don't get me wrong though, the guy certainly has talent and a lot of skill

[Edited on 03-01-2010 by Dom]
Jambo
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Sold mine in 2004 due to lack of space

Had it for 10years, i doubt i can even remember how to drum
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How do you learn to play drums? Do people offer lessons and stuff?
Jambo
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My mum payed for me to learn when i was younger.Hated the lessons when i was a kid appreciated it when i was older and wiser
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
My mum payed for me to learn when i was younger.Hated the lessons when i was a kid appreciated it when i was older and wiser


likewise with me playing the Piano, dropped it all when i was 11/12 as i couldn't be arsed with all of the classical music, but i regret giving it up even though i've tried lessons again but it's stupidly hard when you get older.

Nath - yeah, most people will get lessons when their at school (tends to be cheaper than getting an external teacher). Saying that though, there are plenty of drummers that have never had a lesson (eg: Lars Ulrich) yet are extremely talented drummers.
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if i still had a drumkit i would be better than buddy rich by now.

I got back into it around the age of 19 and started re learning and re started up my lessons. By the time i had been practicing for 2years straight i was the best i had ever been. Then sold my kit cos i had to move

Broke my heart
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Ive never had lessons as such. Use to go to a drum teachers weekly tho, but he didnt teach as such...just provided assistance and guidance to my playing. He had a roland td-20 V drum kit. I had to sell my kit a few years back due to space. Need to find the space and more importantly the cash for a new kit :/
Dom
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not thought about getting a practice kit until space allows? obviously not the same but will allow you do some practice....
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I kept my sticks and did keep up with hand technique for a while. I have a small practice pad. Its just no fun

Mate has an electric dsrum kit and they are shocking tbh
Laney
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Both my kits are sat in my parents loft
MarkSport
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom

Mark - have you managed to have a go on any of the leccy kits that are about? I know you seemed interested in the Roland series in the last thread....


Yeah mate,I went down to pmt in birmingham,wasn't too sure on the sound of it if im honest...sounded abit tinny,I'm definately getting one this year so i have it for whenever needed.

shameless plug or not,that drumming is
MarkSport
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the only pic i have of me playing 9 year ago,I have videos somewhere aswell

Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
quote:
Originally posted by Dom

Mark - have you managed to have a go on any of the leccy kits that are about? I know you seemed interested in the Roland series in the last thread....


Yeah mate,I went down to pmt in birmingham,wasn't too sure on the sound of it if im honest...sounded abit tinny,I'm definately getting one this year so i have it for whenever needed.

shameless plug or not,that drumming is


Yeah the sound modules aren't brilliant, but get yourself a laptop and a decent audio interface (something like an m-box second hand) and then there are a shed load of drum libraries around - currently use >Steven Slate Drums< library (for adding to drum tracks on a mix), isn't cheap but it's absolutely brilliant and sounds spot on.

Yeah, project was to redo a track (from a list selected by the lecturer) and get it as close to the original as possible (used a voicebox etc). It's pretty rough but for second year students it wasn't too bad, although no one (there were a few groups who chose Livin' On a Prayer) managed to get the snare to sound like the original - we tried multi-mic'd gated reverbs (Bowie and Collins used this technique a fair amount) and everything in between, but ended up giving up after we spent a few weeks on it.
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drumming seemed spot on,vocal was abit like
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
drumming seemed spot on,vocal was abit like


Wouldn't say spot on, it's a little rough round the edges and timing is a little out especially during fills etc. But it was done in two takes so...
Yeah the vocalist is shoddy, he was alright during the verses etc but when it came to going up another octave his voice started wobbling all over the show. We tried to sort it using AutoTune but that couldn't hack it, so it was all done by hand using the various pitching tools in Nuendo.
Likewise the "robotic" backing vocal is actual another vocalist, recorded about 20/30 times and then pitched to chords - didn't quite come out as we wanted
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fmtkuNjw80


http://www.youtube.com/user/deedlebag#p/u/18/I7eC6VRPjvk


[Edited on 04-01-2010 by MarkSport]
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Makes me want one as well but I don't think the neighbours would appreciate it in this flat!
MarkSport
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Take it in the pvs van
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i miss playing, i sold my roland td6 last year, not the same as a real kit tho! play guitar now tho, think ive posted videos on here before....
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fmtkuNjw80


http://www.youtube.com/user/deedlebag#p/u/18/I7eC6VRPjvk


[Edited on 04-01-2010 by MarkSport]


The first video looks like it was a few takes especially at the 30 mark, but no doubting his talent, pretty amazing if he's only been playing for 7 years and never had a lesson (although i wonder how much theory knowledge he has...)

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