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SetH

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28th Feb 10 at 18:58

lets say a lift cable and associated backups failed and a lift with a person in it plummeted 20 floors.

What would happen if you jumped off the lift floor the exact moment it crashed into the bottom of the shaft?

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28th Feb 10 at 18:59

busy night SetH?

Jake

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28th Feb 10 at 19:00

you would get crushed by the elevator ceiling

SetH

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28th Feb 10 at 19:01

quote:
Originally posted by jake
you would get crushed by the elevator ceiling

Because you would still be travelling at 80mph or so and the lift would have stopped?

Marc

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28th Feb 10 at 19:02

I expected this to go on to say that theres also a heffer in the lift which caused this to happen

Jake

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28th Feb 10 at 19:02

i cant see the elevator staying in one piece, i would have thought the floor would have a nice meeting with the ceiling. What you say is plausable

Ben J

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28th Feb 10 at 19:03

I've always thought this.

SetH

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28th Feb 10 at 19:04

quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
I've always thought this.

me too, but im dense when it comes to physics etc thus i need a proper boffin answer to put my mind at rest

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28th Feb 10 at 19:05

Are lift ceilings not a framework with foam type sheeting?.
So theoretically you could pass through a gap in the frame.

Ben J

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28th Feb 10 at 19:06

I think because you would still be falling really fast within the lift you'd still end up a mess on the floor.

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28th Feb 10 at 19:07

they showed this on mythbusters. you would die

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28th Feb 10 at 19:08

it would be the same effect as crashing your car into a wall at 80mph and at the last moment sliding your seat all the way back.

at worst your shoe would fall off imo

Jake

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28th Feb 10 at 19:08

if the lift stayed in place wouldnt you hit the cieling and then the floor

MarkSport

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28th Feb 10 at 19:09

You would die....

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28th Feb 10 at 19:09

Depends how fast the lift was falling. If you in a lift normally and jump up you fall back to the lift floor. You dont hit the ceiling. Also you fall the same distance back to the lift floor, not the distance you jump + the distance the lift has moved in that time. hmmmm

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28th Feb 10 at 19:10

quote:
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they showed this on mythbusters. you would die

Yep. Remember this.

Matt H

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28th Feb 10 at 19:11

The cables don't fail so there's no need to worry

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28th Feb 10 at 19:12

quote:
Originally posted by oceansoul

quote:
Originally posted by carl123uk
they showed this on mythbusters. you would die

Yep. Remember this.

Never seen that but it's fairly simple, if you're falling at 80mph, you jump which may knock 1-2 mph off that so you hit the bottom of the lift at 78 mph, it's gonna be fairly catastrophic

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28th Feb 10 at 19:20

Mythbusters did this, showed that even if you jumped at the perfect time to the perfect height that you'd still die. That was from 8 floors, so from 20 you;d be dead.

Also, its impossible on modern lifts for them to drop like that, as have a ratchet type system in place.

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28th Feb 10 at 19:21

The plane would take off.

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28th Feb 10 at 19:22

Mythbusters ftw.

they did this quite a while back and you will die if you jump or not

[Edited on 28-02-2010 by 16vKarlos]

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28th Feb 10 at 19:23

quote:
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The plane would take off.

lies

John

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28th Feb 10 at 19:25

Mythbusters have done it.

Being able to use google FAIL.

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28th Feb 10 at 19:26

I thought I'd mention that Mythbusters did this and that you'd still die...

MarkSport

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28th Feb 10 at 19:26

http://mythbustersresults.com/episode17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zPx5Amyt7A

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