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thegsi

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7th Mar 10 at 21:32

Was just chatting to my mate who has not long bought a Focus RS and I was asking why they didn't put a 4WD system into production into it. Then we got onto the subject of torque steer with my car blah blah blah and he linked me to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhq6sjIo5Cs

Interesting I thought

CORSA NUT

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7th Mar 10 at 21:33

It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.

SetH

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7th Mar 10 at 21:33

Still cant defy the laws of physics IMHO

That is all

thegsi

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7th Mar 10 at 21:36

quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
It's just because they never had a 4WD system to fit to it...simple really.

My mate (who works for Ford) said they did actually produce one but because of the weight, it was producing too much co2 and it broke emission regulations.

CORSA NUT

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7th Mar 10 at 21:38

Oooooooooooo really?? Still should have fitted it IMO

Fuk the regs

Jambo

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7th Mar 10 at 21:39

they didn't do it because it would cost to much.

sand-eel

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7th Mar 10 at 21:40

Why is the vid like lots of recorded words joined together

sand-eel

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7th Mar 10 at 21:44

I bet the 4x4 system wasn't put in becuase it would add another £10k to the list price.

connollygt30

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7th Mar 10 at 21:47

My mate also has one and has started tuning it and it doesnt need 4WD its perfect the way it is and still holds even with extra bhp

Nick-S

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7th Mar 10 at 23:10

the Megane RS and Clio RS has had the same technology for years. They just called it independent steering axis front suspension.

Renault just dont seem to make the same amount of fuss over it as ford do

Griffiths1991

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7th Mar 10 at 23:15

quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
they didn't do it because it would cost to much.

Nail on the head.

Ian

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7th Mar 10 at 23:40

What a load of tosh.

Are you seriously telling me that all cars without Revo knuckle drive like the red one?

Adam_B

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7th Mar 10 at 23:44

Only during, 'sporty driving'

Graham88

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8th Mar 10 at 00:01

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Are you seriously telling me that all cars without Revo knuckle drive like the red one?

That's what I was thinking

Colin

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8th Mar 10 at 01:22

Still 100x more informative than the dealers when you go in to enquire about buying one even though it is a load of shite!

adiohead

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8th Mar 10 at 01:46

a guy in a blue rover nearly drove into me tonight, because he was driving like the red car. stupid bastard.

i heard that ford wanted to use the volvo 4wd system but it couldn't handle the power and would need improving. no idea if it's true or complete bullshit.

mike56gte

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8th Mar 10 at 02:17

quote:
Originally posted by adiohead
a guy in a blue rover nearly drove into me tonight, because he was driving like the red car. stupid bastard.

i heard that ford wanted to use the volvo 4wd system but it couldn't handle the power and would need improving. no idea if it's true or complete bullshit.

a wouldnt think so as u get volvos with 300bhp as standard.

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8th Mar 10 at 08:27

Auto Express say that there's going to be a 4x4 Focus RS Clubsport when this model runs out

Fro

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8th Mar 10 at 08:46

At the red car.

SetH

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8th Mar 10 at 08:59

Mitsubishi and Subaru manage to do it in sub 30k cars so why can't ford?

Ojc

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8th Mar 10 at 09:12

@ that video.

And like GSi_16v says Renault have had it for years but it wears a RS badge so we are supposed to be in awe of it

You could solve that poor red cars issue with a Quaife differential, £500 quid. BANG

Ben G

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8th Mar 10 at 09:20

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
What a load of tosh.

Are you seriously telling me that all cars without Revo knuckle drive like the red one?

i thought that too, never did it in my focus to that extent at all.

the rs drives great as standard, 4wd would've been nice to compete with evo/impreza but it doesn't really need it.

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8th Mar 10 at 09:37

quote:
Originally posted by SetH
Mitsubishi and Subaru manage to do it in sub 30k cars so why can't ford?

Mitsubishi and Subaru make 4x4 saloons as well as their rally homologations. I assume Ford of Europe don't really think they need to start making 4x4 Mondeos and Focus' therefore there probably isn't the point in them developing a 4x4 system for a single trim level of a single model which they are going to sell relatively few of.

Ben G

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8th Mar 10 at 09:44

i don't think people understand the development costs of making a decent, useable 4wd system tbh.

like you say, developing and manufacturing it for it to be used in just one type of trim of one car may seem good to people who want to drive fast everywhere, but it would cost millions just to design and build it.

they could've used the kuga system i suppose but it's not very good.

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8th Mar 10 at 09:47

I'd imagine the Kuga is just an FWD system with a transfer box too. No good if you want to go about taking on the Japanese...

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