Colin
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While I was in BMW dealers getting robbed again, they had a 03 CSL in the showroom.
Impressions:
Seats very uncomfortable.
Not as nice inside(as mine)......obv. meant to be more raw but it was very basic, no toys. Maybe I missed the point. 
Showing its age....scuffs on the interior, wheel worn, paddles knackered, not very fresh looking as i'd have hoped from BMW dealers.
Overall:
Not worth it at all for the 20bhp extra & carbon trim when you consider it would be £12k it would cost to change.
Nice to finally sit in one though!!
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Jambo
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Registered: 8th Sep 01
Location: Maidenhead, Drives: VXR Arctic
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It would be worth it to someone who wants to use it as it was intended though?
Its not about being massively faster, its about it being more pure and responsive and a better driving experience.
Worth the money if you would want it, if you had to use it everyday the normal M3 is obviously the better choice...
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Linch
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Registered: 4th May 06
Location: Whickham, Tyne and Wear
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Wait until you hear it though.
I drove one which made me want to buy a BMW 
[Edited on 01-04-2010 by Linch]
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SetH
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200kg lighter?
a full 2 seconds quicker around fifth gears test track? 
exclusivity, every arseholes got an M3, no offence
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davcohen
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Registered: 1st Nov 03
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Basic - Surely to save any weight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3jVhsI26O4
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SetH
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nearly 30 seconds quicker ring time iirc?
And doesnt it have proper brakes also?
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Graham88
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Registered: 16th Apr 07
Location: South East Kent Drives: E46 M3
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Someone I know has one, 401bhp, left my bike for dead, therefore I am impressed with them big time.
Yes it's not a comfy car, but that's not the purpose of it.
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SetH
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supercharged Graham?
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Graham88
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No mate, I'm not sure what it had done to it as I had no interest in cars at that point but it definetly wasn't supercharging. For a car to leave me when I'm flat out down the M25 makes it pretty impressive tbh so I've loved them ever since.
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SetH
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To gain 50BHP with N/A tuning on an already heavily tuned lump would be quite a feat though?
Surley must had have forced induction of some manner.
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Linch
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Still its a car sold everywhere though, BMW will map the engine so jo bloggs can put shit fuel in it. you can tune and map engines to run on a certain fuel grade and see gains
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Dale
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As i said before i work at Main bmw dealer, they're not a nice car to sit in, its a driving car and i love driving them  its what they are all about.... its a shame the one you saw wasn't nice good condition
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Steve
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did it have broken springs?
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Graham88
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
To gain 50BHP with N/A tuning on an already heavily tuned lump would be quite a feat though?
Surley must had have forced induction of some manner.
He's on my Facebook so I shall find out for ya
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gavin18787
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VwWXdFP6ZA&feature=related
Love the sound of this car, especially how it takes off from a rolling start at the end 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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CORSA NUT
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Love that Vid gavin one of my all time fav's
The blip down at the end it
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Graeme
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I like them but when i drove a few at a BMW bodyshop i used to work at i found them very annoying to manover slowly, think it was obviously due to the gearbox but seemed to have to rev it high to move it then it julted to far and had to slam on brakes.
and i couldnt live with a alcantara wheel for everyday and as u have found out wear alot.
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Fad
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Registered: 1st Feb 01
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Need....one now.....
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davcohen
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I have driven a few standard M3's and could never get on with that SMG gearbox either I didnt know how its done or in every mode the gear change is jerky as hell
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Ojc
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Registered: 14th Nov 00
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Used to think they were the gods weapon of choice, now think pretty average and not that fast considering they are billed as one of the best driving experiences.
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Fad
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I think its a combination of your abililty on track against someone with more money than tallent.
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Jambo
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experience and speed are two very different things Ollie.
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sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
200kg lighter?
a full 2 seconds quicker around fifth gears test track?
Aye i was going to say that, the CSL is quite a bit different to the normal M3.
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Gareth
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Registered: 2nd Mar 00
Location: Derby, Drives: EVO VIII MR & pug 308
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never been in one but heard they are hardcore.
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Graham88
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
To gain 50BHP with N/A tuning on an already heavily tuned lump would be quite a feat though?
Surley must had have forced induction of some manner.
Guys message back:
I had a stage 4 conversion which consisted of Head work, Cams, Tubular manifolds, Full race exhaults with sport cats, power pack upgrade, blah blah lol
Here my power graph when its was @ stage 3 where it made 391.7bhp http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c363/angel_raven45/CSLstg3ATW.jpg
There ya go
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