Andy Stocker
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I've just got back from a trip to the local shops where I saw an elderly man driving, with his wife as passenger, pulling out of the car park with the passenger door wide open and completely oblivious to it.
Why are they even allowed on the road?!
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Ojc
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Sorry but 
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SteveW
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was it actually a UPS van ?
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Griffiths1991
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quote:
Originally posted by SteveW
was it actually a UPS van ?
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cjohnson
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hahahahaha don't you just love 'em!
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Jambo
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sad thing is this in no way shocks me.
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BarnshaW
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old people should be made to re sit their tests. end of
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Andy Stocker
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quote:
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was it actually a UPS van ?
Nope Focus
Thing is that door could have hit a car or a person and done quite abit of damage to either!
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Jambo
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yes but Andy they werent speeding. So therefore they pose no threat
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Ojc
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A general hazard perception test above the age of 65 and to be taken every 5 years there after.
My grandad is 83 years old and only drives in daylight hours and short distances, but even that I fear is too much for him. His awareness and car control are terrible.
Go back 20 years and his driving was fine, so I deffo think another reaction test, hazard perception test would be a good idea.
Trouble is, Government would loose out on millions in lost revenue if they took OAP's off the road.
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Ojc
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yes but Andy they werent speeding. So therefore they pose no threat
This, and thats what is drilled into the public that speeding kills.
It's complete stupidity that kills and if the OAP's done as many miles as the rest of us their percentage on the accident charts would be higher than new drivers IMO.
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Andy Stocker
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yes but Andy they werent speeding. So therefore they pose no threat
Pfft, no threat my backside They are dangerous whether they are speeding, or not even making a speed limit due to their reactions being slow and being completely oblivious to everything around them.
I honestly have lost count the number of times old drivers have cut me up, pulled across me on roundabouts from the wrong lanes, pulled out on me when i've had right of way across a roundabout.
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Andy Stocker
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Originally posted by Jambo
yes but Andy they werent speeding. So therefore they pose no threat
This, and thats what is drilled into the public that speeding kills.
It's complete stupidity that kills and if the OAP's done as many miles as the rest of us their percentage on the accident charts would be higher than new drivers IMO.
In some cases I believe the people that sit on or under the speed limit being christian motorists actually pose more of a danger to other road users
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Jambo
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Yup brainwashed the lot of them. Ignore the CAUSE of an accident and concentrate all effort on speed and demonising purely because its a targetable measurable. I.e something to make cash from.
Great example of this is the report on deers that cause aparently 75 thousand rta's a year and one of the 1st comments on the news site was saying all accidents where caused by speeding. Yup, the fact if the deers werent physicly able to get on the road there would be no accident as they are the cause. Some people can't compute basic facts.
I see it day in day out people iraticly driving never a canstant speed always slowing/speeding up for no reason, chatting away to person in passenger seat, narrowly miss cyclists and dont see dangers in the roads. tHEY are the danger, notr the guy who safely overtakes and contiues his 100% focused driving adapting to the environment.
Its pure absoloution of resposibility. If i don't drive fast im doing nothing worng.
That attitude is whats wrong with England
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Ojc
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I like that post, one of the best I've ever read on here.
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SteveW
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Jambo.. i totally agree with you there
Well done sir
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i did this once in the corrado, pulled out of car parking space and as i turned the door swung wide open i must of left it open slightly while parked.
thanked god i didn't damage my door
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Daimo B
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I totally agree with you all..
but, I am going to put in 1 bit of defence for the elderly.
Don't forget, when they were learning to drive, you we're lucky to have 1 car per household. The M1 saw a car every few minutes...
No jump forwards 40 years, your old, set in your ways, but the traffic on the road in the last 10 years alone has got utterly rediculas.
When your older, stuck in your ways, senial, mad, dribbling, your head can't physically work out how busy things are, what to do, when to do it, and this effects the driving.
But 20 years ago, how they are driving would have been fine as there wasn't as much traffic.
Its not an excuse for them, but a defence for SOME of them.
But still, get them all off the bloody road.
And middle aged toff drivers
Old women
Black people (no im not racist, it might be a London SE region black person, sit in the middle lane, NEVER use indicators and sit with their nose 2" off the stearing wheel, or so far back from the stearing wheel, they are using their feet to stear).
ALL toffs, period....
Young girls
Young boys
Any car driver
Any lorry driver.
In fact, f**k off the lot of you and leave me the road to have my fun on 
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Daimo B
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PS, excellent post Mr Jambo sir, absolutly spot on!!!!!
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Ojc
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This country breeds arrogance though, it's not just black people in the middle lane sitting there like fucking robots its about 95% of the population that haven't a fucking clue what they are supposed to be doing on the motorways, this country is so infuriating to drive in after driving in Europe.
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Andy Stocker
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I can't wait to be driving in Europe again
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Daimo B
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tbh, thats becuase londoners never get taught how to use a dual carrageway, let alone a 3 or 4 lane motorway.
Just drive round/inside them, cut their nose off and let them think your the wanker. Because you are, for doing 80mph, on the inside lane, with 2 hands on the stearing wheel, checking your mirrors and indicating.
No no, the person in lane 3 doing 65mph is perfectly safe with their "stare only in front" vision.
They are under th speed limit, they are safe bruvva.
France and Germany are great, as is the netherlands, but Belgies can't drive for toffee either. Just as bad as the UK lot.
[Edited on 06-04-2010 by VXR]
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Jambo
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I usually find it hard to express myself it all makes sense in my head but never comes out in what i write. So apologies for bad spelling grammar and everything. Im actually a world class idiot.
However i consider myself quite a responsible driver even though society would dictate i am a boyracer hooligan murderer of children because i drive a bright yellow Clio with an exhaust and overtake people who drive dangerously slow.
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Ojc
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The twatishness I see on a daily basis because I'm on a scooter is comical, we've discussed it before but usually in the mornings when people haven't had time to disengage their brains from last nights episode of Eastenders and are driving at 20mph in 30mph zones or 22mph in 40mph zones and then are woken up by the rasp of a scooter going past them at the speed limit soon springs them into action, it's usually the twats in the premium branded cars as well that don't take too well to be overtaken by what they presume to be a chav on a moped and proceed to speed up 
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SXi_Tim
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Yesterday I was stuck behind a 54 plate Rover 45 thing doing 19mph in the national speed limit with a prehistoric bloke behind the wheel, complete liability.
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