Steve
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/10403797.stm
So? if people cant look after themselves on the most basic level then they are better off dead anyway.
This is the exact attitude that im hoping we are going to get out of, molly coddling everyone, just let natural selection take its course for a bit and we will be a better race of people
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mwg
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sorts the wheat from the chaff
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Colin
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Is this mant to be a bad thing?? 
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Colin
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Who comes up with this shite anyway, they obviously dont live near a deprived area!! All dole spongers do is just sit at home smoking fags & eating crisps all day. There going to die young because of this anyway.
If they cut benefits they wont be able to buy as much fag's & crisps will probably live longer.
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Eck
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Wait a minute.... So by taking £70 from people, alcohol related illness rises? More cash should be cut then! If people are fucking retarded enough to drink more with less cash, their life being extinguished is a good thing 
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Bart
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this makes me mad, really mad.
The government should not be intferearing in such a way like this, any new policies should be brought in retrospectively, its really going to fcuk up peoples lives.
Low (ish) income families who's just had children are likely to be relying on the child income tax.
Not only that, if they put up capital gains tax, it could ruin alot of older peoples retirements whos bought 1 or 2 houses for their pension, assuming they'd only pay 18% tax, but could now be facing 40% tax.
I dont think its fair myself.
[Edited on 26-06-2010 by Bart]
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Conway563
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Disagree Bart, the money I get in tax credits helps with the kids but if they take it away fair enough I'll just make cut backs elsewhere if I have to. The only people I've seen complaining about it all have sky, mobiles, cars etc. Those are luxurys that arent needed.
I'd rather work to support my kids than rely on other people
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Limecat
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'In fact, for every £70 drop in spending per person there was a 1.19% rise in overall deaths.'
I make that just over £5882 we need to take from the sponging twats to finish the job properly!
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smcGSI16V
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quote:
Originally posted by Conway563
Disagree Bart, the money I get in tax credits helps with the kids but if they take it away fair enough I'll just make cut backs elsewhere if I have to. The only people I've seen complaining about it all have sky, mobiles, cars etc. Those are luxurys that arent needed.
I'd rather work to support my kids than rely on other people
I like this attitude, it's the what the majority of people should think but they don't as they are too interested in just lining their own pockets and buying the latest gadgets.
 to you sir.
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Root
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that's not all though.
- benefits = + crime
unfortunately, that's the reality, if they cut benefits they need to give the police less paper work so they're on the street more and doing a proper job
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Ian
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If the cuts hadn't taken place there would be an article about the deficit getting bigger.
£70 reduction doesn't sound much but it equates to millions when you scale it up. But they wouldn't print millions because £70 sounds like the country can afford it, which it can't.
They also state that you can reduce spending on the military or prisons and it doesn't affect health of the public. No shit Sherlock. It effects the lives of soldiers and crime rates. Neither of which are negotiable either.
I like the fact that in the comments, most people said it's fine.
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Twiggy
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I want to see where these millions of jobs are going to come from?
2.5million ish on dole?
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Root
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I like the fact that in the comments, most people said it's fine.
It is fine, if we don't budget and cut back then we'll stay in debt
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taylorboosh
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they arent taking it from just people who choose not to work, its from those that need benifits such as disabled people ect. they should just drop jobseekers allowance substantially
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Root
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quote:
Originally posted by john-d
they arent taking it from just people who choose not to work, its from those that need benifits such as disabled people ect. they should just drop jobseekers allowance substantially
they should analyse the individuals better to see if they deserve the benefits
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taylorboosh
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that in turn would cost more cash though?id say, you have 20 weeks to get a job, if not benifits are stopped. and there must be a 10 week break between benifits
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Marc
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Maybe people should have more self control when drinking and smoking.
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Ben D
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quote:
Originally posted by Root
quote:
Originally posted by john-d
they arent taking it from just people who choose not to work, its from those that need benifits such as disabled people ect. they should just drop jobseekers allowance substantially
they should analyse the individuals better to see if they deserve the benefits
Although they dont, they just have a generic Response usually unless very specific criterea's are met.
My mum had a stroke a couple of years ago and because of these budget cuts it took her 2 years to get any real form of financial support, Meaning unfortunatly because the tight fisted government with the backing of people like the pricks in this thread with the view that nobody should be helped and "they would be better off dead" comments its family members of the ill who have to somehow stay at home to care for people whilst simultaneously somehow financially supporting them to give them some quality of life.
Pisses me off when when people generalize & associate disabled / Genuine people in need of help with the lazy type of twats who cant be arsed getting a job
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Sunz
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I think if you have a drug addiction being hard drugs or alcohol you get something like £30 a week extra on JSA which makes it £320 a month.
I agree with john-d that there are some benifits like DLA or incapacity benefit where there shouldnt be cuts in spending.
And there is people who abuse the system were as other people who really need help get no help.
Fallout 3 is the only real option for the future, nuke the world and start again
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taylorboosh
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it would still end up the same, human nature is to want something for nothing
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Root
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you guys aren't listening. If benefits go down, which is what we all want, crime will go up. You will be more likely to have your car jacked or your house burgled
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Limecat
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quote:
Originally posted by Root
you guys aren't listening. If benefits go down, which is what we all want, crime will go up. You will be more likely to have your car jacked or your house burgled
I would rather that were the case TBH. At least then the lazy little bastards have to get off their arse for it and if they are caught in someones house they are more likely to get the kicking they deserve for being scum.
If I had my way, anyone that has been to prison 3 times would be given a lethal injection. Get that pool of twats reduced down as well as the lazy people.
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Ben D
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I dont think that really relates into More crime really, now im not sayng there wont be a rise, but the majority of claimants are legitimate in the fact that that they are ill or have been made redundant etc, i mean if you got made redundant and couldnt get benefits are you saying you would automatically turn to crime? of course not so its a rediculous comment to make. I'm sure any and all criminals out there without jobs are out committing crimes already seeing as they dont have a job to begin with
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Ben D
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LETGSI, Just to note mate but the annual turnover of prisoners in this country is quite low in comparison to our overall population, i think .2% yearly at this present time spent some point behind bars, however at a cost of £36k per year per space @ 89,ooo spaces
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Limecat
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quote:
Originally posted by Benji D
LETGSI, Just to note mate but the annual turnover of prisoners in this country is quite low in comparison to our overall population, i think .2% yearly at this present time spent some point behind bars, however at a cost of £36k per year per space @ 89,ooo spaces
So? Using your figures that's about £98 a DAY to keep some fuckwits behind bars.
3 strikes and they are out. That £98 would probably pay for at least 10 lethal injections, not only is that a bargain but it is also a cost cutting exercise.
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